View Full Version : Health Care Reconcilliation needs second Congressional Vote

03-25-2010, 06:23 PM
:laugh: and its about the Student Loans bit tucked away in the Health Reform...I've raised this point several times but noones replied...the US Health Reform Bill has a section on STUDENT LOANS :blink: because thats got about as much to do with health as anything else in the bill :laugh:

Democratic senators received word just before 3 a.m. Thursday morning that the reconciliation portion of the health care reform bill will have to go back to the House of Representatives for a second vote once it passes the Senate this week.

The Senate parliamentarian, Alan Frumin, ruled in favor of Republicans on two objections to portions of the student loan reform section of the bill, a decision that changes the text of the reconciliation bill and thus requires the House to vote again. The House and Senate must pass identical bills when using the reconciliation process.

The ruling followed a 10-hour marathon voting session that began in the Senate at 5 Wednesday afternoon and dragged on until 3 Thursday morning, during which senators voted on 29 separate Republican amendments to the bill, all of which were defeated. Democrats agreed to break from voting and reconvene at 9:45 a.m. Thursday to consider more Republican amendments.

The delays were seen as a victory for Republicans, who have made no secret of their desire to derail the bill.

Among the Republican amendments defeated Wednesday were a measure from Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to prevent convicted child molesters and rapists from getting reimbursed by the government for drugs to treat erectile dysfunction; an amendment from Sen. George LeMieux (R-Fla.) to require all members of Congress to enroll in Medicaid; a measure from Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) to certify that no households earning less than $250,000 will see increased taxes as a result of health care reform; and an amendment by Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) to certify that Americans will not have to change their health insurance as a result of the bill if they do not want to.

After Coburn's amendment failed, the National Republican Senatorial Committee sent out press releases to the home states of Democratic senators who voted against it. "Every Democrat senator that voted a short time ago to block the Coburn amendment and allow convicted rapists and child molesters to receive taxpayer-funded Viagra can also be assured that voters in their states will hear about that," said a spokesman for the committee.

Democrats dubbed the GOP amendments "poison pills," but Republicans had carefully designed them to be as unobjectionable as possible, and even wrote some to reflect promises made by Barack Obama on the 2008 campaign trail. Their goal in offering the amendments was to change the reconciliation bill and force a second vote by the House.

Aware of the GOP plans, members of Congress had been told to plan to be in Washington this weekend in the event that Republicans succeed in changing the reconciliation bill.

Although President Obama signed the $871 billion health care reform bill into law Tuesday, the Senate still must pass the package of "fixes" to that measure in the reconciliation bill. The changes were demanded by House Democrats in exchange for supporting the Senate version of health reform in a vote on Sunday afternoon.

Included in the reconciliation bill are billions of dollars in additional subsidies for middle-class Americans to purchase health insurance; a delay until 2018 for implementing the 40 percent excise tax on expensive insurance plans; reducing the states' share of expanding Medicaid rolls; and a major overhaul of the federal student loan program.

Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, told Politics Daily Thursday morning that the Republicans can delay the bill's passage, but not prevent it. "We are confident that the House will quickly pass the bill with these minor changes," Manley said. The House voted, 220 to 211, to pass the reconciliation bill on Sunday

03-25-2010, 06:29 PM
The House voted, 220 to 211, to pass the reconciliation bill on Sunday[/I][/B]

Thats LESS then Ten Votes difference. That would probably not be a big enough majority for a British Political Party to beable to form a Government.

If Just Ten changed their votes based on the outcry from civilians in the last week...and they voted No...can anyone tell me what would happen...would the law be void, or would they have to keep tweaking and keep revoting until some version go through :huh:

you'll have to forgive me for not knowing the answer to that one :ashamed:

03-25-2010, 06:49 PM
Dave, can you post a link as to where you got this article from? I am wanting to post it somewhere as well. Thanks!

03-25-2010, 07:00 PM
Dave, can you post a link as to where you got this article from? I am wanting to post it somewhere as well. Thanks!

:laugh: okies...just let me go find it :frantics:

03-25-2010, 07:05 PM
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/24/senate-begins-voting-on-final-health-care-bill/?icid=main|aim|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics daily.com%2F2010%2F03%2F24%2Fsenate-begins-voting-on-final-health-care-bill%2F