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Spiritwalker
03-25-2010, 04:04 AM
Nice Job Obama!!!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/us-officials-ex-gitmo-inmate-becomes-taliban-commander/?hpt=T2

A man who was released from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in December has become a senior Taliban military commander in Afghanistan, U.S. officials said.

Abdul Qayum Zakir was named to replace Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, whom Pakistani security forces captured last month, a Taliban operative told CNN.

A former Pakistani intelligence official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the subject, also confirmed Zakir's appointment.

Zakir was released from U.S. custody on December 7, U.S. officials said.

Buzzard
03-25-2010, 09:59 AM
Nice Job Obama!!!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/us-officials-ex-gitmo-inmate-becomes-taliban-commander/?hpt=T2

A man who was released from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in December has become a senior Taliban military commander in Afghanistan, U.S. officials said.

Abdul Qayum Zakir was named to replace Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, whom Pakistani security forces captured last month, a Taliban operative told CNN.

A former Pakistani intelligence official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the subject, also confirmed Zakir's appointment.

Zakir was released from U.S. custody on December 7, U.S. officials said.

What, you don't think that that happened with Bush?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/brennan-all-transferred-detainees-who-returned-to-terrorism-were-released-by-bush-no-recidivism-for-.html

An op-ed piece. Yes, I know it is an op-ed piece.

http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article77273.ece

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/18/steny-hoyer/hoyer-correct-500-guantanamo-detainees-were-releas/

http://books.sipri.org/files/misc/SIPRIBP0901.pdf

The above is a long history of gitmo and policies under Bush. Note: I did not read it all and am posting only for information, not to provide proof of any wrongdoing by former President Bush.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/20/bergen.guantanamo/index.html

More information, neither for or against either President Obama or former President Bush.

http://www.truthout.org/012509C

Again, for information purposes only. I did not completely read it, so I could be cooking my own goose here.

NateR
03-25-2010, 01:23 PM
Nice Job Obama!!!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/us-officials-ex-gitmo-inmate-becomes-taliban-commander/?hpt=T2

A man who was released from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in December has become a senior Taliban military commander in Afghanistan, U.S. officials said.

Abdul Qayum Zakir was named to replace Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, whom Pakistani security forces captured last month, a Taliban operative told CNN.

A former Pakistani intelligence official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the subject, also confirmed Zakir's appointment.

Zakir was released from U.S. custody on December 7, U.S. officials said.

I think this is just more evidence that we need to treat all of these Gitmo detainees with compassion and grant them all the same freedoms and privileges as the American citizens that they have pledged to kill.

:rolleyes:

Neezar
03-25-2010, 01:27 PM
I think this is just more evidence that we need to treat all of these Gitmo detainees with compassion and grant them all the same freedoms and privileges as the American citizens that they have pledged to kill.

:rolleyes:

Yes, set them free please. They have work to do! Time's a wasting.

NateR
03-25-2010, 01:37 PM
Yes, set them free please. They have work to do! Time's a wasting.

Yes, but we can't set them free in their home countries, we need to send them to a beach resort where they can live out their lives in comfort on the US taxpayers' dime.

Spiritwalker
03-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Yes, but we can't set them free in their home countries, we need to send them to a beach resort where they can live out their lives in comfort on the US taxpayers' dime.

Don't forget the health coverage that they need.

Silverback
03-25-2010, 02:23 PM
I think this is just more evidence that we need to treat all of these Gitmo detainees with compassion and grant them all the same freedoms and privileges as the American citizens that they have pledged to kill.

:rolleyes:

Hang in there Buddy, I called 911 and help is on the way, you have slipped in the shower and hit your head, they will be there shortly so hang on your going to make it.:Whistle::Whistle::wacko:

TexasRN
03-25-2010, 02:25 PM
Hang in there Buddy, I called 911 and help is on the way, you have slipped in the shower and hit your head, they will be there shortly so hang on your going to make it.:Whistle::Whistle::wacko:


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Brilliant!


~Amy

donaldbreland
03-26-2010, 03:53 PM
Yes, but we can't set them free in their home countries, we need to send them to a beach resort where they can live out their lives in comfort on the US taxpayers' dime.

I disagree Nate. I think we should send them where they want to go. A nice little place where they can enjoy their so called 7 virgins. I actually know a way to get them there.

I know you where showing sarcasm lol

NateR
03-26-2010, 04:10 PM
Hang in there Buddy, I called 911 and help is on the way, you have slipped in the shower and hit your head, they will be there shortly so hang on your going to make it.:Whistle::Whistle::wacko:

:rolleyes: = sarcasm

:tongue0011:

Maybe I should write out my sarcastic comments like this next time:

[libtard delusion]Of course, we need to treat these detainees with compassion, because we all know that these so-called "terrorists" are just lashing out at America's evil, imperialistic exploitation of the dark-skinned nations and the murdering of their people for oil.[/libtard delusion]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

What's sad is that there are otherwise intelligent people who actually believe that garbage.

NateR
03-26-2010, 04:11 PM
Yes, but we can't set them free in their home countries, we need to send them to a beach resort where they can live out their lives in comfort on the US taxpayers' dime.

I disagree Nate. I think we should send them where they want to go. A nice little place where they can enjoy their so called 7 virgins. I actually know a way to get them there.

I know you where showing sarcasm lol

Only 7 virgins? I thought it was 70. Boy that Allah guy is turning into a cheapskate. :)

donaldbreland
03-26-2010, 04:14 PM
I knew you were being sarcastic lol. I bet you did blow someones mind on here though lol

J.B.
03-26-2010, 04:16 PM
What, you don't think that that happened with Bush?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/brennan-all-transferred-detainees-who-returned-to-terrorism-were-released-by-bush-no-recidivism-for-.html

An op-ed piece. Yes, I know it is an op-ed piece.

http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article77273.ece

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/18/steny-hoyer/hoyer-correct-500-guantanamo-detainees-were-releas/

http://books.sipri.org/files/misc/SIPRIBP0901.pdf

The above is a long history of gitmo and policies under Bush. Note: I did not read it all and am posting only for information, not to provide proof of any wrongdoing by former President Bush.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/20/bergen.guantanamo/index.html

More information, neither for or against either President Obama or former President Bush.

http://www.truthout.org/012509C

Again, for information purposes only. I did not completely read it, so I could be cooking my own goose here.

This is not the list.

Try again.

donaldbreland
03-26-2010, 04:17 PM
No I think the 70 was only for him. I think he promised them 7.

I honestly believe that this is the reason we are having less Virgins in the World today. They are scared that if they die a Virgin they will have to go and be with these crazy idiots forever. That would suck.

donaldbreland
03-26-2010, 04:18 PM
I found something else to blame on the Muslims.

Spiritwalker
03-26-2010, 07:39 PM
This is not the list.

Try again.



:happy0198::happy0198::happy0198::happy0198:

donaldbreland
03-26-2010, 10:37 PM
I think Buzzard is always sneaking on the computer at the mental hospital. Dang I take that back. I shouldn't have said that. I just insulted mental patients every where. If I didn't know better I would think he is a Radical, Marxist, Socialist and a Muslim all rolled into one F-ed up individual.

Tyburn
03-26-2010, 11:34 PM
I think this is just more evidence that we need to treat all of these Gitmo detainees with compassion and grant them all the same freedoms and privileges as the American citizens that they have pledged to kill.

:rolleyes:

:mellow:

I say...Hang em all

:laugh:

Tyburn
03-26-2010, 11:36 PM
Don't forget the health coverage that they need.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Buzzard
03-27-2010, 03:27 AM
I think Buzzard is always sneaking on the computer at the mental hospital. Dang I take that back. I shouldn't have said that. I just insulted mental patients every where. If I didn't know better I would think he is a Radical, Marxist, Socialist and a Muslim all rolled into one F-ed up individual.

You sir have no room to talk, you ignorant puke. You are an admitted racist and a mental midget. I've crapped better specimens than you.:Whistle: Go back to your KKKave.

Tyburn
03-27-2010, 12:30 PM
:angry: JUST STOP IT... BOTH OF YOU this topic is bad enough without having Trolls make it worse. :angry:

Dont make me exercise my Mod powers :rolleyes:

donaldbreland
03-27-2010, 03:25 PM
No Troll here Dave. Just a man standing up and defending my country from people like him. His views are the same as Radicals. It is no good for this forum or this country. You do not have the right to call someone a troll. I am an admitted racist but its not a black and white thing. Its a racism towards anyone who hates this country.

I will apologize to the rest of the forum members on this topic. I just can't stand that guy.

Tyburn
03-27-2010, 03:55 PM
No Troll here Dave. Just a man standing up and defending my country from people like him. His views are the same as Radicals. It is no good for this forum or this country. You do not have the right to call someone a troll. I am an admitted racist but its not a black and white thing. Its a racism towards anyone who hates this country.

I will apologize to the rest of the forum members on this topic. I just can't stand that guy.

I'm not asking you to change your views (although how insulting comments about mental hospitals equaits even slightly to defending your country I dont know)...I'm asking both of you to keep it civil, you dont know who might read this forum...Thats what a Moderator does. Decides what constitutes debate and what constitutes unacceptable.

IMHO YOUR last post an HIS last post are the sort of behaviour that I dont think should be displayed on forums like this. If I were Webmaster I'd delete both comments...but I'll leave that up to Nathan or one of the others to decide.

There is always a private message system...where you can insult each other in peace...or if he posts something you think beyond the pale, you can complain to Nathan.

Buzzard
03-27-2010, 09:42 PM
No Troll here Dave. Just a man standing up and defending my country from people like him. His views are the same as Radicals. It is no good for this forum or this country. You do not have the right to call someone a troll. I am an admitted racist but its not a black and white thing. Its a racism towards anyone who hates this country.

I will apologize to the rest of the forum members on this topic. I just can't stand that guy.

Please tell me who are "people like me?" and how you are defending this country from people like me? If you think you know me so well, tell me what views that I have that are the same as radicals.

Every time you post you show how ignorant you are, these last posts are prime examples.

Since you say you're "defending your country", how did your enlistment go?

Your unprovoked attack on me and my character was uncalled for and I'll defend myself against it. You've shown your racism and xenophobic traits on here ever since you first joined up, and I find that disgusting. Enjoy your next rally.

flo
03-27-2010, 09:58 PM
I think this is just more evidence that we need to treat all of these Gitmo detainees with compassion and grant them all the same freedoms and privileges as the American citizens that they have pledged to kill.
:rolleyes:
Yes, set them free please. They have work to do! Time's a wasting.
Don't forget the health coverage that they need.

Stop! I'm dying here! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

flo
03-27-2010, 10:00 PM
This is not the list.

Try again.

This has to be one of the funniest threads this month.

:rotfl:

flo
03-27-2010, 10:03 PM
This has to be one of the funniest threads this month.

:rotfl:

Er...at least it was...

mscomc
03-27-2010, 10:50 PM
I think Buzzard is always sneaking on the computer at the mental hospital. Dang I take that back. I shouldn't have said that. I just insulted mental patients every where. If I didn't know better I would think he is a Radical, Marxist, Socialist and a Muslim all rolled into one F-ed up individual.

:laugh: This is the MOST garabge post I think I have ever read. You are accusing buzzard of being a mental patient?

With some of the conspiracy theories you have listed on this site, you are in NO position to call anyone that.

You may disagree with what buzzard says, thats fine, but at least he can articulate his views, he cites what he thinks he has as proof, and he DOES NOT refer to highschool drop-outs like Glen Beck who somehow got a show on CNN.

mscomc
03-27-2010, 10:52 PM
Please tell me who are "people like me?" and how you are defending this country from people like me? If you think you know me so well, tell me what views that I have that are the same as radicals.

Every time you post you show how ignorant you are, these last posts are prime examples.

Since you say you're "defending your country", how did your enlistment go?

Your unprovoked attack on me and my character was uncalled for and I'll defend myself against it. You've shown your racism and xenophobic traits on here ever since you first joined up, and I find that disgusting. Enjoy your next rally.

honestly man, its like beating a dead horse. Maybe one day, Donald will get back into school, hit the books, and then have something meaningful and thought provoking to say. Until then.....:unsure:

donaldbreland
03-28-2010, 04:06 AM
I will beat the next rally. That is if you call going to my next town meeting and supporting my Country against this crazy mess our Government is doing to us a rally. You are the ones who are racists. I do not agree with your views and I think Buzzard just comes on here to start crap. You say he comes on here with proof but I have never seen any proof come from his mouth. I do not need to go back to school and hit any books. I live a very good life and love God which I am very thankful for. I will do this though. I will apologize to this forum for my conduct on this topic but I will not take back my feelings towards you. I think you are simply on the same side as Obama and to me that is bad for our Country. From now on if you have a problem please pm me.

mscomc
03-28-2010, 05:06 AM
I will beat the next rally. That is if you call going to my next town meeting and supporting my Country against this crazy mess our Government is doing to us a rally. You are the ones who are racists. I do not agree with your views and I think Buzzard just comes on here to start crap. You say he comes on here with proof but I have never seen any proof come from his mouth. I do not need to go back to school and hit any books. I live a very good life and love God which I am very thankful for. I will do this though. I will apologize to this forum for my conduct on this topic but I will not take back my feelings towards you. I think you are simply on the same side as Obama and to me that is bad for our Country. From now on if you have a problem please pm me.

PM??? I have got nothing to hide....do you?? :blink:

You see Donald, you clearly did NOT read my post. I said "you may disagree with buzzard" and that is ok. But at least he cites his info. Do you know what it means to cite info? No, you probably do not. Hence, GO BACK TO SCHOOL. You see Donald, an education allows the expansion of ones mind. It allows you to critically think and disect information. Maybe now I see why you like Glen Beck, he is just like you!

And, you are in NO position to say Buzzard starts crap. He may post things that people disagree with, but you post some of the most morally repugnant things on this website.

You see Buzzard will give you a link to: a news article, a research paper, or something else to try and back up what he says, even if you dont agree with it. This allows for a healthier debate as more info is shared. What he does NOT do, is post stupid little youtube videos that little kids can access on some of the most wacko conspiracy theories. Let me guess, you also get your political info from watching AMERICAN DAD and Family Guy on Fox????
I mean seriously Donald, have you studied any: history, political science, government, civics....or anything? or do you just take what TV personalities say at face value?

And if you had read my other posts in other areas of this site, you will see that I have criticized obama, and have commented that I DO NOT agree with many things he does. Most recently, I said it was WRONG for him to pass the current healthcare bill in your country. Why don't you go back and read that, if you can!

And you keep saying we (I am assuming Buzzard and I) are the ones who are racist???? Please Donald show me where I said a racist comment to you? I have certainly criticized you, and perhaps been harsh with you..... but racist? You see, a racist comment is one in which a person with a prejudiced believes that one race is superior to another. Please provide where I did that with you, regarding you race as a white man??? You CAN'T, because I have NOT. Just because someone calls you a racist, does NOT make them the racist.

And you are right, I do disagree with you. I am going to say this reaallllllll sloooowwwwwwww . Me disagreeing with your political views does not make me think you are a racist, its the other CRAP you say. And you know darn well what I am talking about, because then you come and say, "I am sorry, for who I offended..blah blah blah"

And it is not me and buzzard who think you are a little wacko! I am sure there are plenty of people on this forum who think so, and they have posted as such.

LORDY, sorry for the rant ya'll. Off to the UFC 111 thread.

donaldbreland
03-28-2010, 05:26 AM
Please do tell what makes me a racist? That I wanna know. Do I believe there is a conspiracy theory here in America? sure I do. Do I believe what Glenn Beck says? Sure I do. You know why. Because you can not disprove what he says. I Challenge you to do so? Obama has been around Marxist since College. Half of the White house believe in Mao Tse-Tung. More than half of Obama's staff believe in Marxism and socialism.

This is you tube but this is proof. It is real. She actually said this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBDpL2dExY
Dis-prove this please.

mscomc
03-28-2010, 05:53 AM
Please do tell what makes me a racist? That I wanna know. Do I believe there is a conspiracy theory here in America? sure I do. Do I believe what Glenn Beck says? Sure I do. You know why. Because you can not disprove what he says. I Challenge you to do so? Obama has been around Marxist since College. Half of the White house believe in Mao Tse-Tung. More than half of Obama's staff believe in Marxism and socialism.

This is you tube but this is proof. It is real. She actually said this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBDpL2dExY
Dis-prove this please.

Donald, maybe your command of the english language is bad, and I am just not getting you. But anyway, here we go.

If you do not know what makes a racist, even though I GAVE THE DEFINITION IN MY LAST POST, than I dont know, you are lost or something. Moreover, you are a 30 year old man, who does not the what a racist is? you should be ashamed.

Finally, Glen Beck. You see, you asked me to dis-prove Glen beck, but he HAS NOT PROVED ANYTHING!!!! He is just making a comment and observations, it's not proof, according to the defintion of the word proof.

And about your little glen beck. Here is a guy, the barely made it out of highscool, tried to to go college like 10 years later, and dropped out after taking one class. HE IS A CON MAN, as far as I am concerend. He appeals to people who are easily infulenced.

In regards, to your video...donald, did you actually listen? No I do not think you did. You probably just paid attention to Glen Beck slamming books at the end like a little baby.

Anita Dunn said in the video "you do NOT have to accept other peoples paths and choices"...she was just making the point, that you have to make your choice and find your path. So I think Becks little analogy to hitler is moot. Plus, he didnt play the whole thing, that is also suspect to me.

donaldbreland
03-28-2010, 06:05 AM
Man. I have to admit you are in denial. If words comes out of someones mouth then it has to be true. She said herself that Mao influenced her. That is not nor can ever be a good thing. About being a racist. I just don't see it. I do nothing any different than what a black man says. The only difference he is allowed and because I am white I am not allowed. Well guess what. I am not going to be scared to speak my mind on any matter. I get way more respect for being true every time you see me then for going behind someones back and talking ish about them. I say what I feel. I do not let race stand in my way. I do not even look at the color of someones skin when I think or talk to them. My God teaches me that we are all equal. That's why I know I am not a racist. I hate the fact that Indians (not middle eastern), blacks and mexicans can talk about whites without being a racist but the moment I say something someone may take offensive then I am a racist.
I would like you to tell me your definition of racist?
My definition is someone who walks around angry or hating someone for the color of their skin. I do not hate anyone. I just don't see having Muslims in our military when we are at war with them. Do not try and tell me we are not at war with muslims either.

mscomc
03-28-2010, 06:14 AM
Man. I have to admit you are in denial. If words comes out of someones mouth then it has to be true. She said herself that Mao influenced her. That is not nor can ever be a good thing. About being a racist. I just don't see it. I do nothing any different than what a black man says. The only difference he is allowed and because I am white I am not allowed. Well guess what. I am not going to be scared to speak my mind on any matter. I get way more respect for being true every time you see me then for going behind someones back and talking ish about them. I say what I feel. I do not let race stand in my way. I do not even look at the color of someones skin when I think or talk to them. My God teaches me that we are all equal. That's why I know I am not a racist. I hate the fact that Indians (not middle eastern), blacks and mexicans can talk about whites without being a racist but the moment I say something someone may take offensive then I am a racist.
I would like you to tell me your definition of racist?
My definition is someone who walks around angry or hating someone for the color of their skin. I do not hate anyone. I just don't see having Muslims in our military when we are at war with them. Do not try and tell me we are not at war with muslims either.

If a black man said what you said, I would call him the racist too.

Did you just say that Indians are not middle eastern? Donald, Indians, from India, are south asian, not from the middle east...if anything that just make you ignorant.

And it does not matter what YOUR definintion of racist is. The rest of us follow the defined lexicon. You may not hate people, but the stuff you say, tells otherwise.

And just because someone says something it must be true? (your words, not mine)

Ok, I say the sky is purple. I have said it, it must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!

donaldbreland
03-28-2010, 06:36 AM
lol. I already knew the sky was purple. I am a bit color blind though. Look I admitted that some things I speak about are on a lot of racial issues. Where I live we have a huge problem with racism. I agree with you about my posts on some things i say but sometimes they just come out the wrong way.