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CAVEMAN
02-13-2009, 07:55 PM
Check out link

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-02-12-stimulus-package-effects_N.htm

I love what it will do for the average tax payer: The tax credit would increase the average taxpayer's paycheck by about $8 a week,

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Boy, that is really going to stimulate the economy!

These people are out of their minds!

sasquatch
02-13-2009, 08:40 PM
You could buy a Burger King meal with that money.:unsure-1:

County Mike
02-13-2009, 08:40 PM
If you have a job and work for your money, you won't notice any change.

If you're a slacker sucking on the government teet, you'll get more milk.

That's how I understand it.

VCURamFan
02-13-2009, 08:47 PM
If you have a job and work for your money, you won't notice any change.

If you're a slacker sucking on the government teet, you'll get more milk.

That's how I understand it.Pretty much!

mikthehick
02-13-2009, 08:51 PM
I figure I'm blessed b/c I'm employed, get paid, and can help serve others. Sometimes I'll housesit and baby sit kids or train some horses to get extra money, but it could be worse.

Later.

CAVEMAN
02-13-2009, 09:05 PM
$8.00 A PAYCHECK/WEEK????? Where is the logic? Our government has just added $789 billion dollars to the national debt, for what?????

Out with capitalism and in with socialism!!!

CAVEMAN
02-13-2009, 09:06 PM
If you have a job and work for your money, you won't notice any change.

If you're a slacker sucking on the government teet, you'll get more milk.

That's how I understand it.

Exactly! The democrat way, award laziness!

Chris F
02-13-2009, 10:09 PM
Just think they took out a much needed 8 billion for a monorail system from Disneyland to Las Vegas. Bummer. Also 2 billion to help people buy condoms and quit smoking. Man that would have made a lot of Jobs. And my favorite was the were giving money ot ACORN a group being sued for voter fraud. Wow I am sure glad Obama is in charge and saving jobs with ideas like that.

Chris F
02-13-2009, 10:11 PM
What mostly irks me is Obama said he would be transparent yet they are hiding all sorts of stuff on this bill. It was not printed till after midnight and not a single member of congress had time to read it before they voted on it.

Chuck
02-13-2009, 10:17 PM
7 billion for bringing broadband to rural areas????

Yeah that's gonna help my bank account!

J.B.
02-13-2009, 10:23 PM
Just think they took out a much needed 8 billion for a monorail system from Disneyland to Las Vegas. Bummer. Also 2 billion to help people buy condoms and quit smoking. Man that would have made a lot of Jobs. And my favorite was the were giving money ot ACORN a group being sued for voter fraud. Wow I am sure glad Obama is in charge and saving jobs with ideas like that.

I did not hear about the monorail being part of the package, but that monorail has already been in the works. They have been planning a light rail system that connects Phoenix, Las Vegas, and L.A. for quite some time now. Supposedly you will be able to travel to any of the three cities in about an hour, which would be really cool, but that is still years away from what I understand.

I also thought that I heard somewhere that ACORN is not actually getting the money directly from the stimulus package, but rather that some of the money that is supposed to go to the individual states was going to trickle down to them somehow. I could be wrong but, either way, those scumbags should not get a single penny.

We all knew this was coming since the moment Obama got elected. Big spending equals bigger government, and that is ultimately what the liberals want.

Chris F
02-13-2009, 10:50 PM
I did not hear about the monorail being part of the package, but that monorail has already been in the works. They have been planning a light rail system that connects Phoenix, Las Vegas, and L.A. for quite some time now. Supposedly you will be able to travel to any of the three cities in about an hour, which would be really cool, but that is still years away from what I understand.

I also thought that I heard somewhere that ACORN is not actually getting the money directly from the stimulus package, but rather that some of the money that is supposed to go to the individual states was going to trickle down to them somehow. I could be wrong but, either way, those scumbags should not get a single penny.

We all knew this was coming since the moment Obama got elected. Big spending equals bigger government, and that is ultimately what the liberals want.

Yeah it has been in hte works for a couple of decades. But how on earth will spending money on it now help the economy. It was in the senate version of HR 1 but was removed in committee. You are also right about the ACORN thing, but even a trickle down i snot good for us.

Krupp
02-13-2009, 10:51 PM
if I have to inherit all of this crap to pay back through taxes, I am SO moving to Ireland as soon as I have the chance to be a stowaway. or if I have cash. Which I wont, because this bill is screwing me over.

Chuck
02-13-2009, 11:04 PM
Yeah it has been in hte works for a couple of decades. But how on earth will spending money on it now help the economy. It was in the senate version of HR 1 but was removed in committee. You are also right about the ACORN thing, but even a trickle down i snot good for us.

I'm not a fan of this package put forth by Hussein at all but I can't see how the monorail project wouldn't help.

From the raw materials to the wages of the workers.. it seems like it would help. Obviously we're talking about the "new" New Deal but still.. I can see it helping.

Chris F
02-13-2009, 11:52 PM
I'm not a fan of this package put forth by Hussein at all but I can't see how the monorail project wouldn't help.

From the raw materials to the wages of the workers.. it seems like it would help. Obviously we're talking about the "new" New Deal but still.. I can see it helping.

The purpose is to stimulate the economy now. The project cannot start for another 3 years at the earliest because there is no way California can pay their share of the funds since they are broke. SO do you still think it will help stimulate it?

NateR
02-14-2009, 12:22 AM
I'm not a fan of this package put forth by Hussein at all but I can't see how the monorail project wouldn't help.

From the raw materials to the wages of the workers.. it seems like it would help. Obviously we're talking about the "new" New Deal but still.. I can see it helping.

The monorail will create lots of temporary jobs at first; but once it's built most of those people will be laid off and right back where they started. So, it's not really generating any long-term stability for the economy. It's not even generating short-term stability since, as Chris F said, the project won't even get started for at least 3 years.

The best way to stimulate the economy would be to eliminate Federal Income Taxes. They didn't exist until WW2 and even then the American people were promised that it was only temporary until the US got out of the war. Of course, they found an excuse to keep it going after the war; but if it was removed, then most everyone would see an instant boost to their next paycheck.

Of course, the Democrats aren't going to do that because they have all these porky little social projects that they want to fund and the recent economic collapse provided the perfect cover for them to slip everything under the door disguised as "stimulus." Add to that some fear-mongering from "Mr. Doom & Gloom" himself, President Obama, and the American people got taken in by the biggest scam in our country's history.

Chuck
02-14-2009, 12:48 AM
The purpose is to stimulate the economy now. The project cannot start for another 3 years at the earliest because there is no way California can pay their share of the funds since they are broke. SO do you still think it will help stimulate it?

Well obviously not if it won't start for another 3 years goofball! I didn't know that little piece of the puzzle :D

But to Nate's point ( don't know how to multi-quote) I'm ok with the jobs being temporary. I think the nature of a stimulus package in the first place is to "jump start" the economy.

mikthehick
02-14-2009, 03:08 AM
This crap is exactly why we all should have voted for Pedro.

Chris F
02-14-2009, 04:20 AM
Well obviously not if it won't start for another 3 years goofball! I didn't know that little piece of the puzzle :D

But to Nate's point ( don't know how to multi-quote) I'm ok with the jobs being temporary. I think the nature of a stimulus package in the first place is to "jump start" the economy.

It does not really matter now since they removed it from the bill. I have ot go wiht Nate on this one. End federal income taxes and the economy would do a lot better.

Kim- Pedro is not Constitutionally qualified. :laugh:

kyle
02-14-2009, 04:39 AM
And my favorite was the were giving money ot ACORN a group being sued for voter fraud. Wow I am sure glad Obama is in charge and saving jobs with ideas like that.

Hey they had to put something in their for ACORN, to make them happy. If it wasn't for them getting mickey mouse to vote, the democrats wouldn't be in office.:Whistle:

J.B.
02-14-2009, 04:55 AM
For the record, I do not think that the plans for the monorail should be included in this stimulus plan. I don't think this idea is something that should be funded by federal tax dollars. I was just aware of it's existence and I think it would be a really awesome thing...IF it is funded PRIVATELY.

Or, at the very least, if tax payers in those cities want to vote on if they should give funds to the project, that should be their decision.

BUT.. anybody who has spent time in the southwest knows how cool it would be to have a light rail connecting Phoenix, L.A., and Vegas all together...:w00t: that is crazy:scared0015:

Hughes_GOAT
02-14-2009, 05:22 AM
i want a light rail connecting the entire USA.

J.B.
02-14-2009, 05:40 AM
i want a light rail connecting the entire USA.

That would be awesome! :)

I'm sure one dumbass would mess it up for everyone! :laugh:

Hughes_GOAT
02-14-2009, 05:55 AM
i've done the Amtrack and Greyhound enough

MattHughesRocks
02-14-2009, 06:09 AM
Goat will you leave Andrei Arlovski alone? Youre mean :sad:

Hughes_GOAT
02-14-2009, 06:27 AM
i am?

MattHughesRocks
02-14-2009, 06:41 AM
Your Goat right?

Hughes_GOAT
02-14-2009, 06:53 AM
Your Goat right?

no, i'm his brother

CAVEMAN
02-18-2009, 02:51 PM
The other issue I have with this stimulus bill is why should the rest of the country have to bail out California for all of it's bonehead moves in the last 20years? A 41 billion dollar gap in the state budget! I understand they are sending out IOU's to people who were supposed to get a tax return.

Maybe if they weren't "taking care" of all the illegal immigrants in that state, they would not have a $41 billion deficit.