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Play The Man
12-18-2009, 10:27 PM
How prepared are you for a disaster?

If your area was hit by a major natural disaster or terrorist event, would you be prepared with supplies and skills to make it through comfortably?

Miss Foxy
12-18-2009, 10:29 PM
I am very unprepared in all ways. Physically, mentally, and spiritually.. I am working on all of em so please no one send me some stuff to my inbox about being a better Christian :angry: I know what I need to do and I am working on it daily...

Mac
12-18-2009, 10:42 PM
Im not sure what to expect with a terrorist event . As for natural , there is plenty of food all around us , i just have to shoot it , and there is usually a deer or 2 in the freezer. our water comes from a well that has been there for 80 years in the back yard and has never ran dry , sure it is an electric pump but all i have to do is pop the lid and use a rope and a bucket if needed. My folks house is heated primarily with an indoor woodstove and they just live on the other side of the field so thats taken care of . The firearms and ammo is a given around here.

Miss Foxy
12-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Im not sure what to expect with a terrorist event . As for natural , there is plenty of food all around us , i just have to shoot it , and there is usually a deer or 2 in the freezer. our water comes from a well that has been there for 80 years in the back yard and has never ran dry , sure it is an electric pump but all i have to do is pop the lid and use a rope and a bucket if needed. My folks house is heated primarily with an indoor woodstove and they just live on the other side of the field so thats taken care of . The firearms and ammo is a given around here.

Wow, looks like your good to go!! :wink:

Jonlion
12-18-2009, 11:20 PM
Haven't got anything prepared..............


As ever I'll just play it by ear!

Oddtodd76
12-18-2009, 11:20 PM
I am kinda on the survivalist side(not freaky psycho kind):ninja:
if something happens, i just gotta make it to my parents farm! That is the Alamo. It is a self sufficient farm.
beans, bullets, bandaids...Check!

Mac
12-18-2009, 11:23 PM
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beans, bullets, bandaids...Check!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Oddtodd76
12-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Hey, my dad was a military man for 23 years, fire chief for Decatur, and now teaches fire/police,etc how to prepare for disasters...
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

NateR
12-18-2009, 11:37 PM
Im not sure what to expect with a terrorist event .

Shelbyville is not exactly a prime terrorist target. :laugh:

Although I guess those of us in small rural towns would only really be in danger from fallout of large, nearby attacks. We'd really only have to worry about the wind carrying over radiation or chemical/biological agents. Stuff like that.

Chuck
12-18-2009, 11:49 PM
Im not sure what to expect with a terrorist event . As for natural , there is plenty of food all around us , i just have to shoot it , and there is usually a deer or 2 in the freezer. our water comes from a well that has been there for 80 years in the back yard and has never ran dry , sure it is an electric pump but all i have to do is pop the lid and use a rope and a bucket if needed. My folks house is heated primarily with an indoor woodstove and they just live on the other side of the field so thats taken care of . The firearms and ammo is a given around here.

I've said this before when this thread pops up..... if the sh1t ever hits the fan I'm packing up the family and headed to your house!!

I don't actually have your address but I'm pretty sure if I get to Shelbyville and ask if anyone know's where the world famous yote huntin, 'crete pourin, Pitbull shootin, car restorin, Tanerite using Mac lives.... they'll point the way..


And I remember the drill... approach slowly... hands up, palms forward.... with the wife in front!!! :D

bradwright
12-18-2009, 11:51 PM
I'm a Canadian so there is really very little we need to worry about around here because as i'm sure you already know everybody likes us:)...and yes that includes mother nature as well.:wink:

Mac
12-18-2009, 11:54 PM
I've said this before when this thread pops up..... if the sh1t ever hits the fan I'm packing up the family and headed to your house!!

I don't actually have your address but I'm pretty sure if I get to Shelbyville and ask if anyone know's where the world famous yote huntin, 'crete pourin, Pitbull shootin, car restorin, Tanerite using Mac lives.... they'll point the way..


And I remember the drill... approach slowly... hands up, palms forward.... with the wife in front!!! :D


LMAO . Yeah , when you hit shelbyville if you say " Hey , wheres Frederick's place at" If they dont send you here theyll send you to my uncle Johns , and youll be good there aswell :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: , Or just flag over a sherrifs deputy car , most of em are out at my mom and dads anyways drinking coffee and seeing what my mom is fixing for lunch or desert ha ha ha.

Mac
12-18-2009, 11:57 PM
Shelbyville is not exactly a prime terrorist target. :laugh:

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Have you seen the size of our water tower ????????? its taller than our courthouse. If thats not a target i dont know what is . \

Oddtodd76
12-19-2009, 01:32 AM
Have you seen the size of our water tower ????????? its taller than our courthouse. If thats not a target i dont know what is . \

Yes! I did see a report from the pentagon that your water tower was on the hit list for terrorists! Guard it with your life!

NateR
12-19-2009, 01:43 AM
Have you seen the size of our water tower ????????? its taller than our courthouse. If thats not a target i dont know what is . \

Actually they would probably take out that earth-dam. I don't know how you guys would recover from that tragic loss of picnic tables and parking spaces. :laugh:

Mac
12-19-2009, 01:46 AM
Actually they would probably take out that earth-dam. I don't know how you guys would recover from that tragic loss of picnic tables and parking spaces. :laugh:



you know whats ironic ? Right after 9-11 they went down there and stacked those boulders in places so they can completely close it off during high alerts and they dont have to worry anymore about someone driving a vehicle around the gate , now they have boulders lol.

Another thing about that damn , it is the ONLY earth damn ever built by the army corps of engineers ... that is still standing , the rest all failed.

Mac
12-19-2009, 01:47 AM
ohh yeah .. Me and Becky went to town to get stuff to make Christmas candys with " Nate , buckeyes will be ready in a little bit lol"

and i thought of this thread , so i had to come back and post this...........


WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Josh
12-19-2009, 01:58 AM
I am a semi-survivealist/preparedness person. I don't have everything I need but I have most. The main thing I lack are skills that I am trying to aquire. You can only stockpile so much. To me it's more about being prepared to use what is there. Most preparedness people probably say farming would be the best skill to have. You can only hunt so much especially when there are tons of other people tryinh to kill the same animals.

Mac
12-19-2009, 02:04 AM
I am a semi-survivealist/preparedness person. I don't have everything I need but I have most. The main thing I lack are skills that I am trying to aquire. You can only stockpile so much. To me it's more about being prepared to use what is there. Most preparedness people probably say farming would be the best skill to have. You can only hunt so much especially when there are tons of other people tryinh to kill the same animals.

actually i have given thought to that a bit . I thought what would be better , growing your food or shooting it ?

I honestly feel shooting it is your best path . If you take down one deer your family can live off of that for quite a while , but with a garden you will constantly be having to gaurd it and you will need something to eat untill it ripens. Im not sure where you live josh but the deer population in this area anyways is huge . And that doesnt include other game which granted is not so ubundant like rabbits , quail etc. But when it gets right down to the nitty gritty there is a huge abundance of coons and other things. Ive never ate a coon , but i do know folks who have and they have said it isnt bad at all . Then there is always fish . there is a creek right back in behind the house and a huge lake and river. All you need is a float boat and a generator/welder , dfire it up and drop the leads in the water and youll have enough fish for a year with 30 minutes worth of fishing.:laugh::laugh:

NateR
12-19-2009, 02:14 AM
actually i have given thought to that a bit . I thought what would be better , growing your food or shooting it ?

I honestly feel shooting it is your best path . If you take down one deer your family can live off of that for quite a while , but with a garden you will constantly be having to gaurd it and you will need something to eat untill it ripens. Im not sure where you live josh but the deer population in this area anyways is huge . And that doesnt include other game which granted is not so ubundant like rabbits , quail etc. But when it gets right down to the nitty gritty there is a huge abundance of coons and other things. Ive never ate a coon , but i do know folks who have and they have said it isnt bad at all . Then there is always fish . there is a creek right back in behind the house and a huge lake and river. All you need is a float boat and a generator/welder , dfire it up and drop the leads in the water and youll have enough fish for a year with 30 minutes worth of fishing.:laugh::laugh:

If I could find a good recipe for cooking squirrel, I'd be set. :laugh:

Oddtodd76
12-19-2009, 02:15 AM
you need crops. and you need protection of your crops. the "bubba effect" comes into play.
You need fruit and nut trees, chickens & whatever small animals (rabbits,etc). chickens are real easy to take care of. And then you need a vege garden.
And protect it from others trying to get to the veges.
In hard times, people will do whatever it takes to survive.:scared0015:

Oddtodd76
12-19-2009, 02:16 AM
If I could find a good recipe for cooking squirrel, I'd be set. :laugh:

crockpot & bbq sauce.
put on bun!

mmm mmm good

Mac
12-19-2009, 02:26 AM
crockpot & bbq sauce.
put on bun!

mmm mmm good

Bingo .

Or there is always fried squirrel and squirrel gravy. Santa got Boone a 22 rifle for Christmas , a vintage mossberg and sons . Its his first gun so Nate im sure there is going to be plenty of squirrel for you to try lol.

Oddtodd76
12-19-2009, 02:33 AM
Bingo .

Or there is always fried squirrel and squirrel gravy. Santa got Boone a 22 rifle for Christmas , a vintage mossberg and sons . Its his first gun so Nate im sure there is going to be plenty of squirrel for you to try lol.

yeah...all you have to do is act like you are deer hunting...then there will be squirrels everywhere! Don't act like you are hunting squirrels or they will hide!
(at least that is my take)
I love those fuzzy tailed tree rats!

TexasRN
12-19-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't have any guns at the moment but all I have to do is make it up into the mountains where my parents are and I'm set. They have a big garden and plenty of game around. Their house is built halfway underground so is very protected from the elements. I have the skills to survive, just not all of the gear.

My dad always believed we should be prepared for a major war on American soil and wanted us to always have a plan. I can hit what I'm aiming for and can build small game traps. I know how to clean and cook anything I kill/catch. There is a huge chicken farm that their only neighbors run so we're set with eggs and chicken meat. And being a nurse, I would be in demand for medical care and could barter my services as needed or gain entry into a stronghold.



~Amy

TexasRN
12-19-2009, 12:13 PM
And squirrel at my house growing up was always fried in bacon grease or wrapped in bacon and roasted on a spit if we were camping. We'd wrap potatoes in tin foil and bury them under the fire and pull them out when the meat was done. Yum. I've had squirrel stew but prefer rabbit for that.


~Amy

Oddtodd76
12-19-2009, 01:30 PM
I know how to clean and cook anything I kill/catch.



~Amy

I have some single friends that would die to meet you!
HAHAHAHA

TexasRN
12-19-2009, 03:29 PM
I have some single friends that would die to meet you!
HAHAHAHA


:laugh:


~Amy

Play The Man
12-19-2009, 06:43 PM
I think preparation can be categorized in degrees.

For example, there is preparation for the possible personal catastrophes of life: fire in your house, burglary of your house, mugging, personal health crisis. Preparation for this would include: insurance, smoke alarms, burglar alarm, firearm & firearm safety training, preventative health care, childproofing your home, etc. My preparation is good but not excellent. I need to take better care of myself and take some martial arts training; however, I have the basics covered.

Another category of disaster would be a short term disaster, like a lose of power for several days due to a storm. Preparation would include: Flashlights, batteries, back-up heat/cooling source, back-up generator, water and food for 3 days, etc. My preparation is good but not excellent. I don't want to shell out $1,000 for a generator.

The next degree of disaster would be a medium-term disaster with paralysis of civilization. I am thinking of something like Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, LA riots. A major event that ties up police and relief agencies for weeks. In this situation, you can't count on the police, rescue, grocery stores, gas stations. Duration is about a week to a month. Preparation would include: firearm or other personal protection, provisions for weeks, gas, medication, first-aid supplies, cash, etc. My preparation is fair. I could make it but it would be uncomfortable.

Worst case scenario would be a total break-down of civilization. For example, following a nuclear or biological attack. Preparation would include: long-term independent food source, contacts or skills to replace the needs usually supplied by society, personal protection, etc. My preparation for this scenario is poor. In my own cost/likelihood calculation, I think this scenario is unlikely and would require costly, impractical changes in my life for preparation. I guess if this happens, I will be one of the zombie horde scavenging roadkill or braving Mac's shotgun fire trying to pilfer acorns from his property. Maybe I would show up at the Hughes farm and offer to be a serf in exchange for a couple ears of corn and a piece of gristle to gnaw on.

The older I get, the more I think any of these things could happen. I thought the whole Y2K scare was a joke and didn't do any preparation. Since then, there has been 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and an economic melt-down. I'm not going to sell everything and move to some compound; however, I will keep preparing for serious events that could disrupt civilization for several weeks.

Josh
12-20-2009, 07:44 PM
actually i have given thought to that a bit . I thought what would be better , growing your food or shooting it ?

I honestly feel shooting it is your best path . If you take down one deer your family can live off of that for quite a while , but with a garden you will constantly be having to gaurd it and you will need something to eat untill it ripens. Im not sure where you live josh but the deer population in this area anyways is huge . And that doesnt include other game which granted is not so ubundant like rabbits , quail etc. But when it gets right down to the nitty gritty there is a huge abundance of coons and other things. Ive never ate a coon , but i do know folks who have and they have said it isnt bad at all . Then there is always fish . there is a creek right back in behind the house and a huge lake and river. All you need is a float boat and a generator/welder , dfire it up and drop the leads in the water and youll have enough fish for a year with 30 minutes worth of fishing.:laugh::laugh:
Yeah where I live although it is rural is somewhat sparse for deer. Most hunters I know get one or two deer a season at most. Granted in a survival scenario you would hunt year round and would not wait for them to be a certain size. Depending on the disaster there may not be much wildlife left either. A lot of preparedness people really stress having small animals like Todd mentioned. That is not an option for me right now.

Tyburn
12-21-2009, 12:15 AM
How prepared are you for a disaster?

If your area was hit by a major natural disaster or terrorist event, would you be prepared with supplies and skills to make it through comfortably?


Yes.

I am perfectly prepared...although none of us in the city stand much of a chance if Menwith Hill is attacked...we're well within the blast radius...there is no protection for being about a half mile from the epicentre of a thermonuclear detonation.

but...I am prepared for that also. I'll just die :laugh:

Tyburn
12-21-2009, 12:44 AM
I think preparation can be categorized in degrees.

For example, there is preparation for the possible personal catastrophes of life: 1) fire in your house, 2) burglary of your house, 3) mugging, 4) personal health crisis. Preparation for this would include: insurance, smoke alarms, burglar alarm, firearm & firearm safety training, preventative health care, childproofing your home, etc. My preparation is good but not excellent. I need to take better care of myself and take some martial arts training; however, I have the basics covered.

Another category of disaster would be a short term disaster 5) like a lose of power for several days due to a storm. Preparation would include: Flashlights, batteries, back-up heat/cooling source, back-up generator, water and food for 3 days, etc. My preparation is good but not excellent. I don't want to shell out $1,000 for a generator.

6) The next degree of disaster would be a medium-term disaster with paralysis of civilization. I am thinking of something like Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, LA riots. A major event that ties up police and relief agencies for weeks. In this situation, you can't count on the police, rescue, grocery stores, gas stations. Duration is about a week to a month. Preparation would include: firearm or other personal protection, provisions for weeks, gas, medication, first-aid supplies, cash, etc. My preparation is fair. I could make it but it would be uncomfortable.

7) Worst case scenario would be a total break-down of civilization. For example, following a nuclear or biological attack. Preparation would include: long-term independent food source, contacts or skills to replace the needs usually supplied by society, personal protection, etc. My preparation for this scenario is poor. In my own cost/likelihood calculation, I think this scenario is unlikely and would require costly, impractical changes in my life for preparation. I guess if this happens, I will be one of the zombie horde scavenging roadkill or braving Mac's shotgun fire trying to pilfer acorns from his property. Maybe I would show up at the Hughes farm and offer to be a serf in exchange for a couple ears of corn and a piece of gristle to gnaw on.

The older I get, the more I think any of these things could happen. I thought the whole Y2K scare was a joke and didn't do any preparation. Since then, there has been 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and an economic melt-down. I'm not going to sell everything and move to some compound; however, I will keep preparing for serious events that could disrupt civilization for several weeks.


1) I have a plan for that. I simply pick Lauzon out of his cage, and pick up Jens whole cage with him in it and leave...everything else can burn...I dont have much else...of value anyway. If there was time I would dump my journals and record of achievement into my black bag and take that aswell as my blue boxfile with all my bills and financial stuffs. but thats not essential...i'd only do that if the alarms were going off and I couldnt see the fire itself. :laugh:

2) its unlikely to happen to me because I'm above ground in a flat, they have two doors and a flight of stairs to get to me. Secondly...only the computer is worth stealing...there is nothing else...I dont have a cd player, my TV is not flat screen, my movie collection is VHS not DVD, and I have a minidisk player...but noone in their right mind would steal that kinda flash in the pan media. I have a good camera but they are unlikely to find that as its hidden :laugh:

3) the only preparation you can make is prevention. In England you cant walk around with firearms, you cant walk around with tazers, you cant even walk around with mace or pepper spray...you can have a PPA which noone will take any notice of...oh...and if you hurt the mugger, you will end up in as much trouble as him. Avoid travel on foot alone if you are female. Avoid the redlight districts after dark, do not wander off beaten tracks, and avoid any gangs you see. walk with a purpose, walk fast, and do not stop if you are approached

4) I have a mobile phone, but I'm pretty much screwed if I collapse or something at home. if it happens on a friday, I'm not likely to be found until the following Wednessday...even then, good luck in getting into my house and flat. If I didnt turn up on Saturday my work would be angry, but not angry enough to phone me. They would assume that I was ill, or that I was taking the day off since im off sunday and monday. Sunday my Sister might wish to go to church with me, but often I dont show, she'd just go without me. My Parents might wonder where I am for Tea, but they might also think im in Liverpool and they got their dates wrong. They might try phoning, but thats probably all. Monday, nothing happens. Tuesday work is really pissed that I dont ring. Wednessday after three days they would ring, but Mother wouldnt get the message til the evening. I imagine she'd show up at the house that night and be unable to get in. Thursday the landlord would probably come across from out of town and let her in as far as my door...but then they would have to physically break the door down.

I'd be nearly a week as a corpse before anyone even really noticed...niiiiice

5) a loss of power wouldnt cause that much disruption...you could still buy food, except from fresh in supermarkets. Bottled water, tins and stuff.

6) I could ride it out

7) The Store would be the best place to go believe it or not. Its quite dependable. I believe it has a pair of blast doors that would seal one entrance. It has steel barriers that descend over doors and all windows. It wearhous can be sealed from the rest of the building. It has a flat roof so guarding from above would be simple...and it has food to last for a very long time.

When things get really bad, it backs onto the train line. I'd plow a forklift truck through the wall that separates, and begin walking along the train tracks towards The City of Leeds...once in leeds I'm looking to steal a motorbike :laugh: then its off to the Coast to steal a boat. (obviously a small boat) then its time to follow the coast south all the way round and then right across the atlantic ocean to America. I'll just keep going in a straight line until I hit land. Once I get there, I'm looking to steal another Motorbike, then I'm following the signs all the way to Hillsboro. Once I get there, I'll go door to door until I find Nathan Rosario :laugh: Then I'll be safe :happydancing: