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Spiritwalker
11-30-2009, 12:29 PM
On Sunday, Huckabee issued this statement on his Web site: "Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state."

Seattle Police: Cop-Killing Suspect on The Loose


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577765,00.html

Police in Washington state say the suspect in the killings of four police officers in a Seattle-area coffee shop is not inside the house that they've surrounded since early Monday morning.

Negotiators spent the night trying to communicate with 37-year-old Maurice Clemmons, but discovered after a search of the Seattle house and that the suspect was not inside.

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said the location of Clemmons is not known, and it's possible he may still be in the neighborhood staked out overnight by Seattle police. Troyer also says people who know Clemmons told investigators that he had been shot in the torso.

The University of Washington police have alerted students to an unconfirmed report that the suspect in the Lakewood police shootings may have been sighted on or near the campus in Seattle.

Cmdr. Jerome Solomon says someone reported that Maurice Clemmons was seen getting off a bus about 7 a.m. Monday near the university's hospital. He says police are checking the area.

Students have been alerted by e-mail and text messages.

Troyer said warrants for first-degree murder have been issued against Clemmons. A $125,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the suspect's arrest, Troyer said, according to a Twitter post on The Seattle Times' Web site.

The neighborhood is still locked down.

Negotiators had been trying to communicate with Clemmons using loudspeakers, explosions and even a robot to try to prod him from hiding. At one point, gunshots rang through the neighborhood, about 30 miles from the original crime scene.

"We have determined that in fact he has been shot," said Troyer. "He may be deceased from his gunshot wound."

Troyer said Clemmons was shot by one of the murdered police officers, according to The Seattle Times.

Police said they knew the suspect was injured because they have detained other people who reportedly assisted Clemmons after the shootings, The Seattle Times reported.

Troyer would not comment on the number of people they have detained.

Clemmons has a long criminal history, including a long prison sentence commuted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee nearly a decade ago and a recent arrest for allegedly assaulting a police officer in Washington.

Huckabee issued a statement: "Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State."

"This is a horrible and tragic event and if found and convicted the offender should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law."

Clemmons allegedly went to a coffee house on Sunday morning and opened fire on the Lakewood officers, killing Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42, as they caught up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts. He fled but authorities believe he might have been wounded by one of his victims.

"We don't know if he's still alive. If he isn't, it's because he succumbed to the wound he received yesterday when he was in the struggle with the police officer that managed to get a shot fired at him before he was killed," Troyer said on CBS television.

Police surrounded the house late Sunday, and a negotiator used a loudspeaker early Monday to call him out by name, saying: "Mr. Clemmons, I'd like to get you out of there safely. I can tell you this, we are not going away."

Any response from inside the house was inaudible from the vantage of a photographer for The Associated Press. But shortly thereafter, police began using sirens outside the house, and there were several loud bangs before the negotiator resumed speaking. By 3 a.m., the loudspeakers and explosions had fallen silent. Seattle Police spokesman Jeff Kappel said Clemmons has never responded. It's not clear whose house it is.

Clemmons is believed to have been in the area of the coffee shop around the time of the shooting, but Troyer declined to say what evidence might link him to the shooting.

Investigators say they know of no reason that Clemmons or anyone else might have had to open fire on the four as they sat working on their laptops Sunday. Court documents indicate that Clemmons is delusional and mentally unstable.

"We're going to be surprised if there is a motive worth mentioning," said Troyer, who sketched out a scene of controlled and deliberate carnage that spared the employees and other customers at the coffee shop in suburban Parkland, about 35 miles south of Seattle.

Yep.. it's the systems fault ... always someone else's fault...

internationalharvester
11-30-2009, 09:56 PM
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Yep.. it's the systems fault ... always someone else's fault...

The reasoning he says the system is at fault is that he was allowed to leave an Arkansas jail(when he should have not been let out at all), then was picked up in Washington on a NO BOND warrant out of Arkansas then allowed to leave that jail as well, it was the system at fault and it was a great injustice by both states

donaldbreland
12-01-2009, 01:50 AM
He would do better than Obama

rockdawg21
12-01-2009, 04:13 PM
The reasoning he says the system is at fault is that he was allowed to leave an Arkansas jail(when he should have not been let out at all), then was picked up in Washington on a NO BOND warrant out of Arkansas then allowed to leave that jail as well, it was the system at fault and it was a great injustice by both states
Exactly, I didn't see anything wrong with Huckabee's statement. He's spot on what happened. Had these other states done their job, this incident wouldn't have happened.

Bonnie
12-01-2009, 06:19 PM
The screw-ups started in Arkansas with this criminal's release(s) and continued in Washington state. Now there are four dead cops; people aren't going to forget that.

Politically, this will follow Huckabee if he ever decides to run for office again, especially the presidency. I can see the ads now... :wink:

KENTUCKYREDBONE
12-03-2009, 06:15 AM
The screw-ups started in Arkansas with this criminal's release(s) and continued in Washington state. Now there are four dead cops; people aren't going to forget that.

Politically, this will follow Huckabee if he ever decides to run for office again, especially the presidency. I can see the ads now... :wink:

Sad part about it is that this will not only hurt his political career but in my view unjustly! He tried to show some mercy to an 18 yo and got screwed over for it! At the time Huck showed some mercy I don't think his record was anything like it is now! If he ran I would probably vote for him but this gives alot of Folk's the excuse they were looking for to vote against the Preacher!

Spiritwalker
12-03-2009, 02:27 PM
Sad part about it is that this will not only hurt his political career but in my view unjustly! He tried to show some mercy to an 18 yo and got screwed over for it! At the time Huck showed some mercy I don't think his record was anything like it is now! If he ran I would probably vote for him but this gives alot of Folk's the excuse they were looking for to vote against the Preacher!


His record was always violent.. and he was serving a 95 year sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Clemmons

Clemmons had at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington. His first incarceration began in 1989, at age 17. Facing sentences totaling 108 years in prison, the burglary sentences were reduced in 2000 by Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee to 47 years, which made him immediately eligible for parole. Clemmons was released in 2000.

I am not in favor of reducing time for violent offenders..

Bonnie
12-03-2009, 09:50 PM
Huckabee's feeling the heat on this big time. Saw some of it a while ago, the press is being relentless. Very very unfortunate situation for everyone involved--especially those harmed and killed by this criminal and their families.

donaldbreland
12-03-2009, 10:33 PM
Why aren't y'all mad at the parole board in Arkansas.

rearnakedchoke
12-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Bobby Jindal 2012

Bonnie
12-04-2009, 11:19 AM
From what I gathered watching a news report on this yesterday, when this guy got in trouble in Washington most recently and Arkansas heard about it, they issued a warrant for him for violating his parole which allowed them to hold him w/o bail in Washington. However, for some unknown reason Arkansas then rescinded the warrant causing Washington to have to allow him bail. He bailed out of jail and proceeded to kill those police officers.

Arkansas isn't explaining why they killed the warrant that then dominoed into this tragic event.