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Tyburn
11-03-2009, 11:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1u_UCw076w

:huh: well at least Stephen Harper does :laugh:

rearnakedchoke
11-03-2009, 02:29 PM
we need something to hang our coats on ... his ears are perfect for that ... all 30 million of us ...

bradwright
11-03-2009, 10:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1u_UCw076w

:huh: well at least Stephen Harper does :laugh:

who's Stephen Harper ?:unsure-1:

Tyburn
11-03-2009, 10:41 PM
who's Stephen Harper ?:unsure-1:

The Person incharge of Canada...I think :blink:

bradwright
11-03-2009, 10:49 PM
The Person incharge of Canada...I think :blink:

i didn't realize we had anybody in charge of Canada...learn something new every day.:)

Tyburn
11-03-2009, 10:52 PM
i didn't realize we had anybody in charge of Canada...learn something new every day.:)

:laugh: Yes, Canada has a Government, and I think He's the man at the top of that. Canada is commonwealth, so their Head of State is actually Queen Elizabeth Second, just like Austrailia...but its more or less symbolic. I think Stephen Harper is actually incharge, and I dont know nowt about him

bradwright
11-03-2009, 10:59 PM
:laugh: Yes, Canada has a Government, and I think He's the man at the top of that. Canada is commonwealth, so their Head of State is actually Queen Elizabeth Second, just like Austrailia...but its more or less symbolic. I think Stephen Harper is actually incharge, and I dont know nowt about him

we have a government ? wow...i'm certainly learning lots today.:)

Tyburn
11-03-2009, 11:15 PM
we have a government ? wow...i'm certainly learning lots today.:)

:blink: of course you have a Government. I dont know where it sits, or how it functions...but I know it exists :w00t:

Adia
11-08-2009, 02:45 AM
:blink: of course you have a Government. I dont know where it sits, or how it functions...but I know it exists :w00t:

We've got this guy that sits in Parliament and draws a salary, but so far, he's not done a whole lot of good. He got to meet Obama, I guess that's his claim to fame.

Dave, you should come to Canadia, our igloos are small but cozy!

Tyburn
11-08-2009, 11:05 AM
We've got this guy that sits in Parliament and draws a salary, but so far, he's not done a whole lot of good. He got to meet Obama, I guess that's his claim to fame.

Dave, you should come to Canadia, our igloos are small but cozy!

I flew over Canada on all my journies to the US, because of the Axis of the Earth, the flights dont go right across the atlantic on the outward trip, they go north almost as far as Greenland, and then south over Canada to the Northern States

There is very little that interests me in Canada really, I dont know many people there, I dont know much about the Country at all...plus the culture is the same as ours. Canadians (unless French) actually think like Britons, they are like English people with American Accents

...hope you dont find that offensive :unsure-1:

Adia
11-08-2009, 12:56 PM
I flew over Canada on all my journies to the US, because of the Axis of the Earth, the flights dont go right across the atlantic on the outward trip, they go north almost as far as Greenland, and then south over Canada to the Northern States

There is very little that interests me in Canada really, I dont know many people there, I dont know much about the Country at all...plus the culture is the same as ours. Canadians (unless French) actually think like Britons, they are like English people with American Accents

...hope you dont find that offensive :unsure-1:
lol not offended, just confused. Canadians are definitely not like Brits and we definitely don't have American accents. You definitely need to stop by, we are a whole different kind of people :)

bradwright
11-08-2009, 01:37 PM
lol not offended, just confused. Canadians are definitely not like Brits and we definitely don't have American accents. You definitely need to stop by, we are a whole different kind of people :)

well just to be fair we do have the same accents as our neighbors in some of the northern states...unless of course you reside in Quebec or the Maritimes that is...and Adia,go easy on Dave...he really doesn't know very much at all about Canada and thats okay...you know as well as i do that there is nothing much to see or do here.:wink:

Tyburn
11-08-2009, 05:20 PM
lol not offended, just confused. Canadians are definitely not like Brits and we definitely don't have American accents. You definitely need to stop by, we are a whole different kind of people :)

:huh: All the Canadians I have ever met sound like Americans...okay so there are many different American Accents, but Canadians definatley sound American.

You post a load of soundclips mixed between American and Canadian, and I wouldnt be able to tell you which were which. I thought Jack, the cleaner was American for years...I only realized when I nearly offended him

It was the American thanksgiving and I asked him how he was celebrating it...and he replied "we have our Thanksgiving at a different time in Canada" and I was like :blink: "Oh yes...of course" :mellow: ooops, he's Canadian and not American...good job he thought I assumed the Canadian and American Thanksgivings were at the same time...and hadnt misplaced him as a US Citizen...because...he would have been a little offended...He never knew that I had assumed he was an American for a very long time...eventually he had a heart attack and work, and was forced to quit, and then he went back to Canada.

But not before I learned he'd been active in the Canadian Military....Canadians seem to get quite distressed if they are considered as Americans (obviously where the definition of American applies to a US Citizen, not to a person living in North America)

The thing is...he was the most uncanadian canadian in character that I'd ever met. I mean, he sounded like an American, he acted like an American, okay so he didnt really think like an American...but...Well...how embarissing :ashamed:

Adia
11-08-2009, 08:15 PM
well just to be fair we do have the same accents as our neighbors in some of the northern states...unless of course you reside in Quebec or the Maritimes that is...and Adia,go easy on Dave...he really doesn't know very much at all about Canada and thats okay...you know as well as i do that there is nothing much to see or do here.:wink:

I dunno, I am from the Maritimes, and part Francophone, but I perceive a very distinct accent from the prairies, Ontarians and then of course the Newfies...I would pick an American from a Canadian any day unless they came from Ontario, then...well it would be a challenge.

And I'm not too rough on Dave..he likes it too much ;)

bradwright
11-08-2009, 08:19 PM
I dunno, I am from the Maritimes, and part Francophone, but I perceive a very distinct accent from the prairies, Ontarians and then of course the Newfies...I would pick an American from a Canadian any day unless they came from Ontario, then...well it would be a challenge.

And I'm not too rough on Dave..he likes it too much ;)

you think we have an accent in the prairies ?:unsure-1:

Adia
11-08-2009, 08:25 PM
you think we have an accent in the prairies ?:unsure-1:

indeed. My cousin moved from NB to Manitoba and now I don't recognize him on the phone. There's a prairie accent to be sure.

mscomc
11-08-2009, 08:56 PM
hahaha, canadian accents are funny. I persoanlly am from Toronto (i know everyone hates toronto) and everytime i went to the states, no can ever tell i am canadian. I think one group of canadians that can stick our very easy is the Newfoundlanders. Now i have to say, I know many Newfies, but i never thought they spoke any different than me. But than, i took a math class in university, and the proff did grow up in Newfoundland. I swear the conversation went like this....

me: professor, i am having a hard time integrating this equation

professor: fhHFIUhf hagoahgoh jagpjaghhg hhhhh hwghpghPGHPGHPw.....got it?

me: :blink: yessssssssssssss:unsure-1:

-----speaking of the monarch. Canada is moving away from them. consult any nationwide poll. The only people that still want anything to do with the monarch are reallllly old canadians who are in their 60's (and older). Most canadians dont care, and dont want them involved in our politics (me to, no offence dave:wink: )

It is just sooooooo unessescary. To make a new federal law, First we have to pass a bill which is long enough already, than we have to go to the governor general (or the lieutenant governor in the case of provincial law) and than they have to o.k it....and even then they can reject it. The last time a viceroy did that was in 1961.....and it has NEVER again happend since than.

it wouldnt be so bad. I mean, its not like if Britain ever needed help, we wouldnt help them.

Tyburn
11-08-2009, 11:01 PM
I dunno, I am from the Maritimes, and part Francophone, but I perceive a very distinct accent from the prairies, Ontarians and then of course the Newfies...I would pick an American from a Canadian any day unless they came from Ontario, then...well it would be a challenge.

And I'm not too rough on Dave..he likes it too much ;)

:ashamed:

I once knew a Canadian woman who claimed to have a handbasket...and a dungeon :ninja:

:laugh:

Tyburn
11-08-2009, 11:15 PM
I dunno, I am from the Maritimes, and part Francophone, but I perceive a very distinct accent from the prairies, Ontarians and then of course the Newfies...I would pick an American from a Canadian any day unless they came from Ontario, then...well it would be a challenge.

And I'm not too rough on Dave..he likes it too much ;)

:ashamed:

I once knew a Canadian woman who claimed to have a handbasket...and a dungeon :ninja:

:laugh:

Tyburn
11-08-2009, 11:20 PM
and than they have to o.k it....and even then they can reject it. The last time a viceroy did that was in 1961.....and it has NEVER again happend since than.

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Does the Queen really have to physically sign off on any Canadian piece of Legislature :blink:

Well...I worry about Canada and Australia going for the exit when Elizabeth dies....most of those who like the Monarchy...arent really a fan of the Monarchy...they are a fan of a particular Monarch:ninja:

mscomc
11-09-2009, 12:24 AM
Does the Queen really have to physically sign off on any Canadian piece of Legislature :blink:

Well...I worry about Canada and Australia going for the exit when Elizabeth dies....most of those who like the Monarchy...arent really a fan of the Monarchy...they are a fan of a particular Monarch:ninja:

The queen will appoint a governor general for Canada. The Governor general is bestowed all of the queens powers while in Canada. So everytime we pass a bill, she has to sign it, as she is acting as the appointed head of state in place of the queen.....it just irks me. The monarch doesnt do anything, yet they still should sign off on our laws. I mean, i know its just a symbolic thing, but still.....

What are you so worried about? is the british government going to collapse if the they leave the monarch? does the british government really DEPEND on these nations being a part of their commonwealth for survival? Are they actively involved in the politics of either country? Is the sky going to fall?:laugh:

Tyburn
11-09-2009, 12:51 AM
The queen will appoint a governor general for Canada. The Governor general is bestowed all of the queens powers while in Canada. So everytime we pass a bill, she has to sign it, as she is acting as the appointed head of state in place of the queen.....it just irks me. The monarch doesnt do anything, yet they still should sign off on our laws. I mean, i know its just a symbolic thing, but still.....

What are you so worried about? is the british government going to collapse if the they leave the monarch? does the british government really DEPEND on these nations being a part of their commonwealth for survival? Are they actively involved in the politics of either country? Is the sky going to fall?:laugh:


The British Government wont Collapse, Infact the British Government might move to disband the Monarchy all together.

The Commonwealth might collapse though...there are only three major contributors to it...India, Australia, and Canada...two out of three might make the whole thing unviable.

Would that end the world :huh: no...but it would truely mark the final end of The British Empire :sad: I'm an Imperial Royalist....so it would effectivly mark a catatastrophe for me.

Supposing Elizabeth dies, and Charles threatens to become King...causing Australia and Canada to leave the commonwealth, and the Commonwealth collapses and then is dissolved. Then Charles whose meddlesome as it is, comes up against opposition, and the Monarchy is deposed.

From my perspective, ive just lost King and Country over bloody night :mellow: No Empire, No Monarchy....The Parliamentarians win the Civil War AGAIN :angry:

mscomc
11-09-2009, 01:04 AM
The British Government wont Collapse, Infact the British Government might move to disband the Monarchy all together.

The Commonwealth might collapse though...there are only three major contributors to it...India, Australia, and Canada...two out of three might make the whole thing unviable.

Would that end the world :huh: no...but it would truely mark the final end of The British Empire :sad: I'm an Imperial Royalist....so it would effectivly mark a catatastrophe for me.

Supposing Elizabeth dies, and Charles threatens to become King...causing Australia and Canada to leave the commonwealth, and the Commonwealth collapses and then is dissolved. Then Charles whose meddlesome as it is, comes up against opposition, and the Monarchy is deposed.

From my perspective, ive just lost King and Country over bloody night :mellow: No Empire, No Monarchy....The Parliamentarians win the Civil War AGAIN :angry:

I am just curious, and you dont have to answer if you dont want to.

Why are you so loyal to the monarch? What are they doing for you? now my knowledge of british legislature is a pretty rusty, but is the queen, or dukes, or DUTCHESS OF CORNWALL (who i cant stand by the way) sitting in the house of lords fighting for you? you may not agree with all the laws parliament passes, but at least they are trying to do something....while charles is out having multiple affairs on his current wife (and former mistress) and Prince Phillip is drinking the finest brandy in buckingham palace. I mean even in WW II, it was churchill who was trying to fight and beat the germans. What was the queen doing?


I ask, because maybe it will help me understand why so many old canadians love the monarch. As far as i can tell, they just come to town and wave a few times, wearing fancy clothes.

Tyburn
11-09-2009, 01:53 AM
I am just curious, and you dont have to answer if you dont want to.

Why are you so loyal to the monarch? What are they doing for you? now my knowledge of british legislature is a pretty rusty, but is the queen, or dukes, or DUTCHESS OF CORNWALL (who i cant stand by the way) sitting in the house of lords fighting for you? you may not agree with all the laws parliament passes, but at least they are trying to do something....while charles is out having multiple affairs on his current wife (and former mistress) and Prince Phillip is drinking the finest brandy in buckingham palace. I mean even in WW II, it was churchill who was trying to fight and beat the germans. What was the queen doing?


I ask, because maybe it will help me understand why so many old canadians love the monarch. As far as i can tell, they just come to town and wave a few times, wearing fancy clothes.

The Monarch is The Embodiment of the Nation. They are The Defender of The Anglican Faith. They are Head of the Commonwealth. They stretch in an unbroken line back more then Two Thousand Years. They are symbolic of our Nations Heratage

But you have to understand that they are diminished.

The Royal Family all have titles that still hold to the Previous couple of Kingdoms that were in Existance before England. Cornwall, Wessex, Kent, Wales, Scotland. They dont really deal with Parliament...not even the House of Lords.

During the War they were like Rocks for the Nation. Winston Churchill wasnt in office when the war began, and he dissapeared by demand of the people the moment the war ended...and his reign in the 50s was so dire its been forgotten like a repressed memory...but the Queen Mother, who refused to leave Buckingham Palace in Central London during the Blitz because she desired to see and suffer just like her people was beloved until she died, and her Daughter for similar reasons...people of principle, faultless and tireless in their lifes profession that they had no choice over. Selected, they truely believe, by GOD

You see, one of the heartbreaking things for Elizabeth must be the fact that though she is about to break the record for oldest living monarch in history, and longest reigning monarch in history...her entire reign has been so much a service to others that shes seen nothing but the loss of political power.

The Monarchy is supposed to be a Dictatorship, a Political Dictatorship, and it is supposed to be an Imperial one, based on the aquisition of land, and the spread of an Empire. She should rule Parliament not the other way round. She should be head of the Church...but she is becoming a paperweight...officially she has powers...but she will never exercise them...because that would be her demise...the parliamentarians would not allow it. She knows that. She thus chose to be a kinda political advisor more then a direct person of power.

She more or less does exactly to Government, as I do to this Forum. She doesnt really ever execute direct power. but she does nothing but talk to those who do. She gets to know them well, and perhaps she can sway them occasionally. She also holds public support...albiet paper thin, for who she is, not what she does...if push comes to shove, they would abandon her...but just like on this forum...i'm the quirky little english man who during the normal everyday running is simply a fascination.

I dont know as much as half the people on here about MMA...I dont even train. But she is an Institution...and someone recently refered to me as the same on here.

I love America...because she reminds me of what England used to be.

plus...she doesnt usually wear funny clothes...the Women usually just wear normal clothes, and the men usually wear Military Uniforms...the only time she wears funny clothes is when she is opening Parliament...or maybe addressing some Order of Chivilry

The Monarchy in their usual clothes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gscRBE29tls (Ironically I just made the same point about clothes in the comments section of the video about a month ago...wow...dont remember that hahaha)

The ceremonial dress is usually worn by her entourage...for exmple those funny people in red and gold jackets, they are an order of chivilry, the Highest Order, known as The Order of The Garter...and the guy in the cloak with the Sword is The Lord Mayor of London...another powerful political figure, reduced to nothing but a ceremonial symbol...at one time..he could cause the downfall of Kings...he was given the sword by Elizabeth the first to ensure they were on good terms...now...he's some naff person from the city who holds this ceremonial office for just a year...and does...almost nothing...I mean..n-o-t-h-i-n-g...so sad...so bloody sad :'(

btw...i'd almost forgotten, on top of the Loss of Commonwealth, and loss of Monarchy, we also face the loss of the Union that makes up the United Kingdom, if the Scottish Nationalists succeed in the Referendum next year...Scotland stands on the brink of gaining FULL independance from England...goodbye Union....If Elizabeth dies in the current clime...its curtains for everything quintessentially English of a political nature...overnight I would imagine.

...and few would care..thats how far we've fallen :'(