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MattHughesRocks
02-09-2009, 02:45 PM
When Georges St. Pierre entered the Octagon at UFC 94 a great many people picked him to beat B.J. Penn, but very few thought it would be as one-sided as the fight ended up being. The Canadian champion dominated his way to a TKO stoppage.

After the fourth round ended, St. Pierre went back to his corner one more time to get the gameplan that he hoped would put Penn away once and for all, but Penn's corner signaled the finish and the referee stopped the fight.

"I knew I was in total control of the fight, and when I came back in the corner for the fifth (round) my trainer told me that for the fifth round stay standing up and pick him apart because he had a hard time even standing on his feet. If the fifth would have started, I was going to open up right away standing up and try to finish him in the early fifth round," St. Pierre told MMAWeekly Radio recently.

"He gave up before the fifth round came."

There was much pre-fight hype around this bout and attention paid to Penn's comments towards St. Pierre on the Spike TV series "UFC Primetime" in regards to the welterweight champion's loss to Matt Serra in 2007 in which he tapped out from strikes. Penn repeatedly called his opponent a quitter, and after the fight was over, it was St. Pierre who was standing tall when the Hawaiian could take no more.

"To tell you the truth, because he has said a lot of bad things about me, and he keeps saying a lot of bad things, I'm going to tell you the truth, I felt great about it," St. Pierre commented about the way the fight ended. "For me it's a big satisfaction, because he said I'm a quitter, and I'm not the one who didn't come back for the last round.

"I thought in the beginning it would have been better if I win by a submission or a knockout, but the more I think about it, the more I'm happy about the ending. Because it proved a point for me."

St. Pierre went onto say he actually commended Penn for his decision to stop the fight if he was unable to intelligently continue, and says that no fighter should feel shame if they are forced to tap out.

"If I get caught in an armbar, I prefer to tap and come back stronger the next time than not tapping and even losing the fight and my arm being dislocated, and not having my arm come back at 100 percent," St. Pierre stated.

Before the fight, Penn seemingly went for the throat when commenting about St. Pierre, his camp, and his trainers. Since the fight, the focus has now turned to a dispute about St. Pierre's cornermen and the way they applied Vaseline between rounds. The Canadian champion says he's lost some respect for Penn, but he's moving on to bigger and better things.

"With all the things that have happened, the excuses, all these things, I'm not very happy about it to tell you the truth. I'm mad a little bit," St. Pierre said about Penn. "The thing is, the more I talk about it, the more people will talk about it, the more people will think I'm trying to make an excuse. I'm not the one who tried to say things. I have nothing to hide. I've always been honest. For me, they can say whatever they want. For me, the fight is over now. I look to the future; B.J. is the past.

"I enter a new chapter in my career. I want to go forward, not to go back."

St. Pierre is already back in light workouts and will travel to Colorado soon to help teammate Nate Marquardt prepare for his Feb. 21 fight at UFC 95 against Wilson Gouveia in London, England.


http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8132&zoneid=2

NateR
02-09-2009, 03:32 PM
"I enter a new chapter in my career. I want to go forward, not to go back."

I actually agree, we don't want this to turn into another Ken/Tito trilogy. If BJ wants a rematch, he should be forced to give up the LW title and then win one non-title WW match before getting another chance at GSP.

CAVEMAN
02-09-2009, 03:34 PM
"With all the things that have happened, the excuses, all these things, I'm not very happy about it to tell you the truth. I'm mad a little bit," St. Pierre said about Penn. "The thing is, the more I talk about it, the more people will talk about it, the more people will think I'm trying to make an excuse. I'm not the one who tried to say things. I have nothing to hide. I've always been honest. For me, they can say whatever they want. For me, the fight is over now. I look to the future; B.J. is the past.

"I enter a new chapter in my career. I want to go forward, not to go back."




http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8132&zoneid=2

Good statement from GSP! He should just move on. I'm sure the next time he fights, he will be watched very closely. AND if he makes quick work of Alves, which, I think he will, there should be no more doubts.....at least on the greasy issue!

rockdawg21
02-09-2009, 04:01 PM
I agree, BJ just needs to accept the fact that he's not a true WW. He's got enormous talent, but he's going about it the wrong way - gaining fat in order to fight @ WW. Like I said in another post, if he's serious about fighting at WW, he needs to take a year and do a real muscle bulk, fight maybe 2 fights at WW to prove himself, then get a shot at GSP. I'd say if he can get by Fitch and Alves, then he should get a shot at GSP.

GSP is right, time to move on. Alves deserves the shot and it would also be cool to see GSP move up to face Silva.

rearnakedchoke
02-09-2009, 04:07 PM
I actually agree, we don't want this to turn into another Ken/Tito trilogy. If BJ wants a rematch, he should be forced to give up the LW title and then win one non-title WW match before getting another chance at GSP.
Exactly .... the funny thing is, is that everyone knows that BJ makes excuses, my ribs hurt, i gassed, the stars weren't aligned, so imo, he really looks like the sore loser in all this ... but gsp is right, look toward alves now and don't even bother with BJ anymore

cds
02-10-2009, 12:32 AM
I actually agree, we don't want this to turn into another Ken/Tito trilogy. If BJ wants a rematch, he should be forced to give up the LW title and then win one non-title WW match before getting another chance at GSP.

Bingo.....Winner winner, chicken dinner...LOL

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 02:52 AM
I actually agree, we don't want this to turn into another Ken/Tito trilogy. If BJ wants a rematch, he should be forced to give up the LW title and then win one non-title WW match before getting another chance at GSP.


EXCELLENT idea!!! I could get behind that 100%

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 02:53 AM
GSP is right, time to move on. Alves deserves the shot and it would also be cool to see GSP move up to face Silva.


After he can prove he can make weight for a few fights.. sure

NateR
02-10-2009, 03:01 AM
After he can prove he can make weight for a few fights.. sure

If Alves fails to make weight when fighting GSP, then I think he can forget about ever getting a WW title shot again.

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 03:05 AM
If Alves fails to make weight when fighting GSP, then I think he can forget about ever getting a WW title shot again.

Nothing pisses me off more in MMA than not making weight.. it's worse than forgetting your homework in school...

Though for some reason I still like Gina... maybe it's just the bumps and curves.

lc87
02-10-2009, 04:34 AM
I think bj should just stay at lw he's never had much success at 170. He's actually competes at 155 and looks like a turd most of the time at 170.

atomdanger
02-10-2009, 04:42 AM
If Alves fails to make weight when fighting GSP, then I think he can forget about ever getting a WW title shot again.


Oh god, he better make weight.

atomdanger
02-10-2009, 04:43 AM
BJ is incredible, but the facts are he is no WW.
Sometimes you're just too small to fight guys that much bigger and stronger.

GSP is big and strong at WW, but wouldn't make it at LHW,
probably not even at MW.

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 11:21 AM
BJ is incredible, but the facts are he is no WW.
Sometimes you're just too small to fight guys that much bigger and stronger.



Not what the Gracie's say...

CAVEMAN
02-10-2009, 04:00 PM
BJ is incredible, but the facts are he is no WW.
Sometimes you're just too small to fight guys that much bigger and stronger.

GSP is big and strong at WW, but wouldn't make it at LHW,
probably not even at MW.

I actually think GSP could beat a few people at MW.

Josh
02-10-2009, 04:16 PM
I actually think GSP could beat a few people at MW.
Me too. I think he could beat at least half of the UFC MW division. I think guys like Hendo would give him problems.

GroundNPound
02-10-2009, 04:44 PM
Penn doesn't deserve a rematch. He should have to beat 2 guys at WW before GSP. I think he'd have trouble with Alves and Fitch.

Say what you will about the "grease", GSP dominated every aspect of that fight.

Tyburn
02-11-2009, 12:07 AM
When Georges St. Pierre entered the Octagon at UFC 94 a great many people picked him to beat B.J. Penn, but very few thought it would be as one-sided as the fight ended up being. The Canadian champion dominated his way to a TKO stoppage.

After the fourth round ended, St. Pierre went back to his corner one more time to get the gameplan that he hoped would put Penn away once and for all, but Penn's corner signaled the finish and the referee stopped the fight.

"I knew I was in total control of the fight, and when I came back in the corner for the fifth (round) my trainer told me that for the fifth round stay standing up and pick him apart because he had a hard time even standing on his feet. If the fifth would have started, I was going to open up right away standing up and try to finish him in the early fifth round," St. Pierre told MMAWeekly Radio recently.

"He gave up before the fifth round came."

There was much pre-fight hype around this bout and attention paid to Penn's comments towards St. Pierre on the Spike TV series "UFC Primetime" in regards to the welterweight champion's loss to Matt Serra in 2007 in which he tapped out from strikes. Penn repeatedly called his opponent a quitter, and after the fight was over, it was St. Pierre who was standing tall when the Hawaiian could take no more.

"To tell you the truth, because he has said a lot of bad things about me, and he keeps saying a lot of bad things, I'm going to tell you the truth, I felt great about it," St. Pierre commented about the way the fight ended. "For me it's a big satisfaction, because he said I'm a quitter, and I'm not the one who didn't come back for the last round.

"I thought in the beginning it would have been better if I win by a submission or a knockout, but the more I think about it, the more I'm happy about the ending. Because it proved a point for me."

St. Pierre went onto say he actually commended Penn for his decision to stop the fight if he was unable to intelligently continue, and says that no fighter should feel shame if they are forced to tap out.

"If I get caught in an armbar, I prefer to tap and come back stronger the next time than not tapping and even losing the fight and my arm being dislocated, and not having my arm come back at 100 percent," St. Pierre stated.

Before the fight, Penn seemingly went for the throat when commenting about St. Pierre, his camp, and his trainers. Since the fight, the focus has now turned to a dispute about St. Pierre's cornermen and the way they applied Vaseline between rounds. The Canadian champion says he's lost some respect for Penn, but he's moving on to bigger and better things.

"With all the things that have happened, the excuses, all these things, I'm not very happy about it to tell you the truth. I'm mad a little bit," St. Pierre said about Penn. "The thing is, the more I talk about it, the more people will talk about it, the more people will think I'm trying to make an excuse. I'm not the one who tried to say things. I have nothing to hide. I've always been honest. For me, they can say whatever they want. For me, the fight is over now. I look to the future; B.J. is the past.

"I enter a new chapter in my career. I want to go forward, not to go back."

St. Pierre is already back in light workouts and will travel to Colorado soon to help teammate Nate Marquardt prepare for his Feb. 21 fight at UFC 95 against Wilson Gouveia in London, England.


http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8132&zoneid=2

Nice try to switch the focus away from the fact he cheated.

Properganda...but you aint gonna get people to forget by saying you feel fine and want to move on. :laugh:

He certainly has entered a new chapter in his career :ninja:

Spiritwalker
02-11-2009, 02:23 AM
Nice try to switch the focus away from the fact he cheated.

Properganda...but you aint gonna get people to forget by saying you feel fine and want to move on. :laugh:

He certainly has entered a new chapter in his career :ninja:


I still don't feel that he "out and out" cheated. It's not like it even played a part in the fight anyways..

Tyburn
02-11-2009, 12:34 PM
It's not like it even played a part in the fight anyways..
thats not the point!!:mellow:

bradwright
02-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Nice try to switch the focus away from the fact he cheated.

Properganda...but you aint gonna get people to forget by saying you feel fine and want to move on. :laugh:

He certainly has entered a new chapter in his career :ninja:


he didn't cheat Tyburn,,time to get over it.

Tyburn
02-11-2009, 04:40 PM
he didn't cheat Tyburn,,time to get over it.
:laugh: No, I dont think so:laugh:

bradwright
02-11-2009, 04:44 PM
:laugh: No, I dont think so:laugh:


most of us need proof,,

Preach
02-11-2009, 05:07 PM
most of us need proof,,


And some of you are too blind to notice

lc87
02-11-2009, 05:40 PM
He himself might not have cheated but his corner sure did twice. After the first time his corner should have been warned and the second a dq should have been handed down. Everyone says it did not affect the fight but the high gaurd the rubber gaurd just kept slipping off.

GroundNPound
02-11-2009, 07:22 PM
He himself might not have cheated but his corner sure did twice. After the first time his corner should have been warned and the second a dq should have been handed down. Everyone says it did not affect the fight but the high gaurd the rubber gaurd just kept slipping off.


There's also footage showing GSP shrugging his shoulders and going vertical which also combats the high guard. GSP talked about this on mmaweekly and sherdog radio.

Penn lost to the better fighter. End of story. BJ Penn CANNOT get into great shape at 170. Ask Matt Hughes. Penn was doing well in that fight until he gassed out. Penn belongs at 155. I think GSP would kill him again.

lc87
02-11-2009, 11:32 PM
There's also footage showing GSP shrugging his shoulders and going vertical which also combats the high guard. GSP talked about this on mmaweekly and sherdog radio.

Penn lost to the better fighter. End of story. BJ Penn CANNOT get into great shape at 170. Ask Matt Hughes. Penn was doing well in that fight until he gassed out. Penn belongs at 155. I think GSP would kill him again.

Very true but who knows how much the vasaline helped if any. But if it really helped gsp he would never admit to it. I also think bj should have stayed at 155 and stay there.