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MattHughesRocks
02-09-2009, 04:33 AM
UFC president Dana White still wants Fedor Emelianenko to fight in the Octagon. The thing is, he doesn't believe that Fedor, or at least his handlers, really have a strong interest in the Russian crusher coming to the UFC. Then again, he's not really sure what Fedor and his management wants.

"I want Fedor too, contrary to popular belief," he reiterated recently. In White's mind, it's just a matter of not being able to negotiate with Fedor's camp.

"I have no idea what they want. Everything makes no sense to me. I think they thought, 'You know, we'll partner up with these guys and we'll own a piece of this thing.' It's all mixed signals. You never know what these guys want," he stated, amused frustration in his tone.

"When I first met with these guys, (Fedor's) manager is like, 'Here's what we want to do. My brother is the biggest rock concert promoter over there. So here's what we want. We want you to build an arena in Russia,'" recounted White. "And I'm like, '(Expletive) timeout.' I want to sign a guy. I'm not looking to build arenas or get into business with you or anything like that. We'll pay him what he wants to be paid. We'll promote and do this and that. But it's not about Fedor when you talk to these guys."

Having built the UFC on the back of strong personal relationships in the fight game when there wasn't all that much money, if any, to throw around, the UFC President hasn't even met the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. "I've never met Fedor! I've never said one (expletive) word to the guy. I've never even seen him face to face."

The Fedor situation has strung out ever since Zuffa (the UFC's parent company) acquired Pride in spring of 2007. When the promotion was finally shuttered due to difficulties in trying to operate in Japan and several fighter contracts were either deemed non-transferrable or nonexistent, the UFC began signing fighters to new contracts. Fedor has been one of the only fighters to elude the MMA juggernaught.

At this point, it doesn't appear the UFC will ever be able to snare his services. White can only throw up his hands in frustration and move on.

"I don't know what they want... Fedor's one of these guys that, listen, everybody thinks that I won't give Fedor his props and everything. B.J. Penn and Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva and every other guy in this company fight the best of the best three times a year. Fedor's not doing that. If he wants to fight guys three times a year, prove he's the best, if he wants to do that, I'm willing to do it with him," says White.

"I don't think he cares about a legacy or any of that kind of stuff," he continued. "I don't know. I'd like to see him fight in the UFC."

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8148&zoneid=2

Josh
02-09-2009, 05:18 AM
I am at the point now that Dana is actually making it hard for me to be interested in the UFC. I almost feel ashamed when I buy a PPV after the crap he pulls. Fedor has beaten all the best HWs the UFC has to offer with the exception of Mir. If I was him I would stay away from the UFC for the rest of my career just to make the point that the UFC is not the only game in town.

CAVEMAN
02-09-2009, 04:25 PM
Fedor would destroy any HW the UFC currently has and deep down, Dana knows it. If you really think about it, there is no point for Fedor to fight in the UFC. As soon as he signed, he would be fast tracked to a title fight, win the belt, and then what?

rockdawg21
02-09-2009, 04:35 PM
Fedor would destroy any HW the UFC currently has and deep down, Dana knows it. If you really think about it, there is no point for Fedor to fight in the UFC. As soon as he signed, he would be fast tracked to a title fight, win the belt, and then what?
Then we could have Silva face him. Now, THAT would be the biggest MMA fight ever! :jumping0047:

It wouldn't be bad. Fedor is billed at 230 and Silva is known to walk around 210-215. It'd be awesome to see!

F****** Dana, if you're f****** reading this, this is the only reason you need Fedor. 1 monster F****** paycheck! :tongue0011:

rockdawg21
02-09-2009, 04:41 PM
"When I first met with these guys, (Fedor's) manager is like, 'Here's what we want to do. My brother is the biggest rock concert promoter over there. So here's what we want. We want you to build an arena in Russia,'" recounted White. "And I'm like, '(Expletive) timeout.' I want to sign a guy. I'm not looking to build arenas or get into business with you or anything like that.
Communists

rearnakedchoke
02-09-2009, 04:50 PM
I think Dana is right .... as much as i love Fedor, and think he is the greatest, he needs to fight more people ... GSP, Spider are fighting the top guys three times a year and Fedor fights HMC ... sure he has fought Sylvia and AA, but i would like to see him do more of that seeing as Affliction is probably done ... To me this is like watching Barry Sanders in his hey-day .. you knew he was amazing, but you wanted him somewhere better than Detroit so his full-potential could shine ... oh well ... Fedor is still a bad man

lc87
02-09-2009, 05:45 PM
That would be a great day if it ever happens but I don't see it happening.

Straight Right
02-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Then we could have Silva face him. Now, THAT would be the biggest MMA fight ever! :jumping0047:

It wouldn't be bad. Fedor is billed at 230 and Silva is known to walk around 210-215. It'd be awesome to see!

F****** Dana, if you're f****** reading this, this is the only reason you need Fedor. 1 monster F****** paycheck! :tongue0011:


I always think about him fighting other heavy-weights and never really thought about him fighting Anderson Silva, but that's an interesting matchup. Not that it will ever happen.

I haven't bought a pay-per-view in awhile (going to friends or a bar) but I'm saving my $$ for when Matt gnps Serra into obscurity I'll want that on the DVR for a long while.

Llamafighter
02-09-2009, 06:05 PM
Fedor has fought at about 225 I think even 220 for the Mirko fight (i have to check)
I think if Anderson moved up and Fedor came down that would be the MMA fight of the century. Anderson's striking would be awesome, but I honestly think Fedor would bully him on the ground. Anderson's striking would be better but i think Fedor would beat him up. IMHO. But who know's.

AS long as Gerry Millan is any part of Fedor's camphe will never go to the UFC. That guy is a freaking psycho. Fedor's managment seems like cool guys, but Millan is a cancer in the MMA world. did anyone else see Road to Reckoning where Gerry totally rips off Dana's blog idea and spends most of the weak pranking Dana's phone and sending texts to him. It's annoying.

ufcfan2
02-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Fedor would destroy any HW the UFC currently has and deep down, Dana knows it. If you really think about it, there is no point for Fedor to fight in the UFC. As soon as he signed, he would be fast tracked to a title fight, win the belt, and then what?
Well to me the only concern about Fedor coming to the UFC is if he pulls a CroCop and not train in a cage. If he does come he needs to learn the in's and outs of a cage with all its plus/minus's...
Right now there are some good fights for him in the UFC:Lesnar,GG,Cain some of these guys could give Fedor a run..I honestly believe GG could beat Fedor if he comes in hungry and don't mentally flipout.

Straight Right
02-09-2009, 08:08 PM
I honestly believe GG could beat Fedor if he comes in hungry and don't mentally flipout.


Are you talking about Gabriel "Napćo" Gonzaga? or some other fighter with "GG" as initials? I suppose anything is possible, and no disrespect, but are you serious?

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Today I honestly believe we will never see Fedor in the UFC, ever...

The contract they offered Fedor was RIDICULOUS,
and the things he is rumored to be asking for are also.

So I doubt it, UFC does not want to do a co promotion with M - 1,
and Fedor doesn't want to sign a contract where he cannot be released if he goes undefeated.

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 08:37 PM
I think Dana is right .... as much as i love Fedor, and think he is the greatest, he needs to fight more people ... GSP, Spider are fighting the top guys three times a year and Fedor fights HMC ... sure he has fought Sylvia and AA, but i would like to see him do more of that seeing as Affliction is probably done ... To me this is like watching Barry Sanders in his hey-day .. you knew he was amazing, but you wanted him somewhere better than Detroit so his full-potential could shine ... oh well ... Fedor is still a bad man

GSP fought twice in 2008 and one was a not top ten (Serra)
Anderson Silva fought 3 times in 2008 but one was James Irvin.

So, no those guys aren't fighting 3 top level guys a year.

In fact, lets go down the list of other champions.
in 2008 BJ fought twice. (Sherk and Stevenson)
In 2008 Rampage fought twice, losing his title to Forrest then beating Wandy
Forrest fought twice, winning his title then losing it.
Lesnar fought Mir, Couture and HH
While nog only fought Big Tim and Frank Mir

So, more often than not the UFC's Champions aren't fighting 3 top level guys a year.
But of course Dana has to make it sound worse for Fedor

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 08:39 PM
Well to me the only concern about Fedor coming to the UFC is if he pulls a CroCop and not train in a cage. If he does come he needs to learn the in's and outs of a cage with all its plus/minus's...
Right now there are some good fights for him in the UFC:Lesnar,GG,Cain some of these guys could give Fedor a run..I honestly believe GG could beat Fedor if he comes in hungry and don't mentally flipout.

Lesnar might be interesting based on size alone.

Cain? lol come on. Did you see him fight saturday?
He looked like crap in a tko victory, thats hard to do alone, but he also did it against somebody out of shape an in their UFC debut.

lc87
02-09-2009, 08:39 PM
Today I honestly believe we will never see Fedor in the UFC, ever...

The contract they offered Fedor was RIDICULOUS,
and the things he is rumored to be asking for are also.

So I doubt it, UFC does not want to do a co promotion with M - 1,
and Fedor doesn't want to sign a contract where he cannot be released if he goes undefeated.

I agree with everything you just said but now that he has destroyed 2 of the most hyped fighters in ufc history dana might try a little harder to try and sign him.

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 08:42 PM
I agree with everything you just said but now that he has destroyed 2 of the most hyped fighters in ufc history dana might try a little harder to try and sign him.

Maybe, I know he is becoming much more known in America,
and I am sure Dana White does not want that.

Who knows, it would be nice, I would love it, I am just done getting my hopes up.

lc87
02-09-2009, 08:47 PM
I guit getting my hopes up to but it would ba to see him in the cage. But im fairly certain its never gonna happen. Expecially if fedor runs through barnett then dana would have close to no choice but to sign him. Running through 3 of the ufc's best hw champs of all times

Josh
02-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Are you talking about Gabriel "Napćo" Gonzaga? or some other fighter with "GG" as initials? I suppose anything is possible, and no disrespect, but are you serious?
I actually think Gonzaga has as much of a chance of beating Fedor as anyone else. So not much...He would be an interesting style match up for him though. He has great ground skills and a little standup.

lc87
02-09-2009, 09:14 PM
He has great ground skills and a little standup.

That is why I think he would get destroyed. You have to get close enough to him before the take down before going to sleep

jason2130
02-09-2009, 09:46 PM
he wont come to the UFC, why would he?

he can stay where he is, fight 1 time a year, fighting the UFCs X-champs, and people will scream his name as the best, he can pick the x-champs 1 by 1and train a whole year just to beat each one and make it sound like these x-champs where at the best theyve ever been, better than when they had the belt

or

go to the ufc, lose 2 outa 3 fights, against heavy weights people dont think should be in the same category as fedor, and ruin his near spotless record, and the critics will scream "see he couldnt cut it in the UFC"

or

he will plow through the UFC, and retire in no different position than hes in now, except 1 or 2 critics will change to fans

i myself am no fedor fan, i would love to see him come to the UFC and in a upset of the century some heavyweight like GG, Lesnar, or even Carwin knock him out in the first round, but he has nothing to gain, and alot to lose

rearnakedchoke
02-09-2009, 09:53 PM
GSP fought twice in 2008 and one was a not top ten (Serra)
Anderson Silva fought 3 times in 2008 but one was James Irvin.

So, no those guys aren't fighting 3 top level guys a year.

In fact, lets go down the list of other champions.
in 2008 BJ fought twice. (Sherk and Stevenson)
In 2008 Rampage fought twice, losing his title to Forrest then beating Wandy
Forrest fought twice, winning his title then losing it.
Lesnar fought Mir, Couture and HH
While nog only fought Big Tim and Frank Mir

So, more often than not the UFC's Champions aren't fighting 3 top level guys a year.
But of course Dana has to make it sound worse for Fedor

yeah, but fedor fought sylvia last year, then the year before he fought lindland and hong man ... i like fedor and think he is the best but he needs to come to the UFC ... but that is just selfish of me and want to see fedor

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 09:53 PM
he wont come to the UFC, why would he?

he can stay where he is, fight 1 time a year, fighting the UFCs X-champs, and people will scream his name as the best, he can pick the x-champs 1 by 1and train a whole year just to beat each one and make it sound like these x-champs where at the best theyve ever been, better than when they had the belt

or

go to the ufc, lose 2 outa 3 fights, against heavy weights people dont think should be in the same category as fedor, and ruin his near spotless record, and the critics will scream "see he couldnt cut it in the UFC"

or

he will plow through the UFC, and retire in no different position than hes in now, except 1 or 2 critics will change to fans

i myself am no fedor fan, i would love to see him come to the UFC and in a upset of the century some heavyweight like GG, Lesnar, or even Carwin knock him out in the first round, but he has nothing to gain, and alot to lose


I think AA was just as good if not better then when he was UFC Champ,
and I know Big Nog was better when Fedor beat him.
Tim Sylvia had also only lost to Nog and Couture when he lost to Fedor,
not like he was getting beat by chumps.

I just don't see how you can think GG or Carwin would pose a threat, at all.
GG? Really?
GG beating Cro Cop was a fluke, nothing more,
and he has been living off that hype ever since.
And that is the only top 10 victory he has, and Carwin is so untested it isn't funny.

rockdawg21
02-09-2009, 10:02 PM
It'd be interesting to see what Brock could do. Nobody can stop Brock's takedowns so if he wanted Fedor on his back, he'd get it done (they showed a stat prior to the Couture fight - out of every 6 attempts, he's only stopped 1 time - that's awesome!). How is Fedor's guard? I haven't seen him on his back ever, but I've only seen him fight a few times and never was he in any danger. I just think that Brock could pose some problems to Fedor with his size and wrestling ability.

I'd still give the win to Fedor, I see maybe a KO with his striking or maybe a submission using his sambo skills, but I don't think he'd roll through Brock by any means.

jason2130
02-09-2009, 10:11 PM
I just don't see how you can think GG or Carwin would pose a threat, at all.
GG? Really?
GG beating Cro Cop was a fluke, nothing more,
and he has been living off that hype ever since.
And that is the only top 10 victory he has, and Carwin is so untested it isn't funny.

im not saying that any of them would win, on paper fedor looks better than most fighters out there (alot argue better than all fighters), but MMA is full of upsets, thats what makes it fun to watch, and regardless if he beats Carwin 49 outa 50 fights, if that one lose happens the night of the UFC PPV then every every fedor critic out there will scream "see! we told you so"

im just saying he has nothing to gain at the UFC

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 11:32 PM
It'd be interesting to see what Brock could do. Nobody can stop Brock's takedowns so if he wanted Fedor on his back, he'd get it done (they showed a stat prior to the Couture fight - out of every 6 attempts, he's only stopped 1 time - that's awesome!). How is Fedor's guard? I haven't seen him on his back ever, but I've only seen him fight a few times and never was he in any danger. I just think that Brock could pose some problems to Fedor with his size and wrestling ability.

I'd still give the win to Fedor, I see maybe a KO with his striking or maybe a submission using his sambo skills, but I don't think he'd roll through Brock by any means.


Randleman dumped Fedor and had him on his back for a little bit,
Brock is a lot bigger than Randleman, I think Brock is the only interesting fight for Fedor in the UFC, and that is based on size alone. But even with his size I don't see him beating Fedor. Armbar from the bottom with ease.

atomdanger
02-09-2009, 11:35 PM
im not saying that any of them would win, on paper fedor looks better than most fighters out there (alot argue better than all fighters), but MMA is full of upsets, thats what makes it fun to watch, and regardless if he beats Carwin 49 outa 50 fights, if that one lose happens the night of the UFC PPV then every every fedor critic out there will scream "see! we told you so"

im just saying he has nothing to gain at the UFC


On paper?
I don't really think so, on paper he is too short and too small to be a HW champion.

In real life he looks better than any HW out there, he just doesn't make mistakes or get in trouble ever.

I just think Carwin is wayyy too inexperienced, he has only fought a couple guys with more than 10 wins and he himself only has 10 wins over wayyyy sub par opponents. Too often in MMA have I seen people getting exited about "the next big thing" after a good record and a couple quick KO's just to see that person get man handled. So for now, I don't see Carwin even posing a threat until he has been tested.

Not to mention,
if You're the world champion you don't need you, and shouldn't have to fight just anybody who calls you out.
You earn your shot at a title you should wayyy have to earn your shot at Fedor.
He would gain nothing from beating GG and Carwin, it wouldn't prove anything.

lc87
02-10-2009, 12:04 AM
He would gain nothing from beating GG and Carwin, it wouldn't prove anything.


He would prove how bad the ufc hw division has been lately with some of the guys they consider contenders.

atomdanger
02-10-2009, 04:33 AM
He would prove how bad the ufc hw division has been lately with some of the guys they consider contenders.


Right...
but what would that do for Fedor?

que
02-10-2009, 04:54 AM
fedor will retire long before UFC ever gets around to signing him

you can tell fedor is losing his passion and interest with each fight. i say he retires in 1-2 years and goes out on top

lc87
02-10-2009, 05:01 AM
Right...
but what would that do for Fedor?


Exactly my point. Besides the payday not much at all really except maybe ufc hall of fame and a chance at going undefeated in the ufc. Now that would prob be the best way to go out on top.

But to me it seems that fedor isn't in it for fame and fourtune but the chance to compete like a certain other fellow we all know about.

atomdanger
02-10-2009, 05:08 AM
fedor will retire long before UFC ever gets around to signing him

you can tell fedor is losing his passion and interest with each fight. i say he retires in 1-2 years and goes out on top


I think so as well.

Whats the point?
The HW division isn't what it used to be.

He is already rich, he is completely famous all over the world,
I mean, the guy is HUGE all over asia, and obviously in Russia as well.
He has proved everything he needs to prove.

GroundNPound
02-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Let's hope so for MMA's sake.

Bring on Fedor - Lesnar next year! Assuming Brock continues to evolve.

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 12:44 PM
Randleman dumped Fedor and had him on his back for a little bit,
Brock is a lot bigger than Randleman, I think Brock is the only interesting fight for Fedor in the UFC, and that is based on size alone. But even with his size I don't see him beating Fedor. Armbar from the bottom with ease.


I would still pay to see Randy/Fedor

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 12:46 PM
you can tell fedor is losing his passion and interest with each fight. i say he retires in 1-2 years and goes out on top


With that face? How can you tell?

Fedor Happy
http://mmabay.co.uk/img/Fedor.jpg

Fedor in Pain
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-2.jpg

Spiritwalker
02-10-2009, 12:48 PM
Maybe Dana can use ICECREAM???!!!

A chick in the armor??

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oI2Cerkh-w4/RnBQGwjR_BI/AAAAAAAAAGg/Y5JjjrjCaBI/s320/FedorIceCream.jpg

hizo64
02-10-2009, 02:12 PM
With that face? How can you tell?

Fedor Happy
http://mmabay.co.uk/img/Fedor.jpg

Fedor in Pain
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-2.jpg

Ah dude! Thats hilarious!! I had to look up what stoic meant and those pictures basically sum it up! lol

CAVEMAN
02-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Randleman dumped Fedor and had him on his back for a little bit,
Brock is a lot bigger than Randleman, I think Brock is the only interesting fight for Fedor in the UFC, and that is based on size alone. But even with his size I don't see him beating Fedor. Armbar from the bottom with ease.

I totally agree! I believe Fedor would submit Brock very quickly from any where on the ground. Don't get me wrong, I like Brock and all, but he will be lucky not to get submitted by Mir again. Brock is a little wreckless at times.