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Play The Man
09-22-2009, 04:37 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/abortion-addict-admits-multiple-abortions-suicide-attempts/story?id=8594347

Irene Vilar worries that her self-described "abortion addiction" will be misunderstood, twisted by the pro-life movement to deny women the right to choose.

Her book, "Impossible Motherhood," which will be released by Other Press on Oct. 6, chronicles her own dark choices: 15 abortions in 16 years, much of it as a married woman.

As press on the book has begun to leak out, Vilar -- a literary agent and editor --- says she has already sensed "an inkling of hatred."

Vilar has scheduled only closed-door interviews and will not do a book tour. At the urging of her husband, they have made sure all public property records do not reflect her name, so she cannot be targeted at their home.

"I am worried about my safety and the hate mail," she told ABCNews.com in a telephone interview as her home-schooled children were at work on a painting project.

"No book like this has ever been written," she told ABCNews.com. "I just imagine the 'baby killer' and I could be a poster child for that kind of fundamentalism. And there are my little kids in all of that."

Today, at 40, the Latina author has two young children, but her troubled past continues to haunt her well into motherhood.

About half of all pregnancies in the U.S. are unintended, and 40 percent of these are terminated by abortion -- 854,122 in 2002, the latest year for which data is available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

An estimated 50 percent of women who seek one abortion, will have a repeat one, according to the Guttmacher Institute, which promotes sexual and reproductive health. About 10 percent of those women will have three or more.

Vilar's pregnancies became compulsively self-destructive: After her 9th and 10th abortions, she "needed another self-injury to get the high."

"In the beginning I was taking pills and I'd skip a day or two or give up one month," she said. "I'd think I'll be better next time. But slowly, my days took on a balancing act and there was a specific high. I would get my period and be sad, then discover I was pregnant, being afraid, yet also so excited."

Vilar said many women who have repeat abortions show a certain "recklessness."

Such was the case with Mary, a Florida college student who did not want to use her real name, who had her first abortion in 2006 when she was 21.

"It didn't seem like the right choice to have a baby then," she told ABCNews.com. But she got pregnant again with the same boyfriend a month later and without telling him, aborted.

"I felt it wasn't something I wanted to go through again, that I wanted to be more careful," said Mary. "It's a physically painful thing to do -- not something I'd ever want to use as a form of birth control. Who wants to go through that pain to end the lives of potential children?"

But at 24 with a new boyfriend, she got pregnant again and fantasized about motherhood, but he didn't want the baby.

"I felt like we were committing murder, that I was killing something that I wanted," said Mary. "I felt like I should feel the pain. I wanted to physically suffer."

After three abortions, she was left with lingering health problems and her doctor suggested she might not have a child again.

"When I was 21, it seemed easier," she said. "It was. It has a lot to do with my mental state about the situation. It feels like there is no healing for this."

MattHughesRocks
09-22-2009, 04:47 AM
Ok I think this pretty much tops anything ever posted...we may as well close up shop.

NateR
09-22-2009, 05:04 AM
I'm kind of surprised that a network like ABC would show anything that portrays abortion in a negative light. I've been reading about the mental and physical toll that abortion takes on the women who have them for years now, so it's good to finally see that information being made public.

Play The Man
09-22-2009, 05:16 AM
Ok I think this pretty much tops anything ever posted...we may as well close up shop.

No, I think this story from 2004 tops it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/magazine/18LIVES.html?pagewanted=print&position=

I grew up in a working-class family in Pennsylvania not knowing my father. I have never missed not having him. I firmly believe that, but for much of my life I felt that what I probably would have gained was economic security and with that societal security. Growing up with a single mother, I was always buying into the myth that I was going to be seduced in the back of a pickup truck and become pregnant when I was 16. I had friends when I was in school who were helping to rear nieces and nephews, because their siblings, who were not much older, were having babies. I had friends from all over the class spectrum: I saw the nieces and nephews on the one hand and country-club memberships and station wagons on the other. I felt I was in the middle. I had this fear: What would it take for me to just slip?

Now I'm 34. My boyfriend, Peter, and I have been together three years. I'm old enough to presume that I wasn't going to have an easy time becoming pregnant. I was tired of being on the pill, because it made me moody. Before I went off it, Peter and I talked about what would happen if I became pregnant, and we both agreed that we would have the child.

I found out I was having triplets when I went to my obstetrician. The doctor had just finished telling me I was going to have a low-risk pregnancy. She turned on the sonogram machine. There was a long pause, then she said, ''Are you sure you didn't take fertility drugs?'' I said, ''I'm positive.'' Peter and I were very shocked when she said there were three. ''You know, this changes everything,'' she said. ''You'll have to see a specialist.''

My immediate response was, I cannot have triplets. I was not married; I lived in a five-story walk-up in the East Village; I worked freelance; and I would have to go on bed rest in March. I lecture at colleges, and my biggest months are March and April. I would have to give up my main income for the rest of the year. There was a part of me that was sure I could work around that. But it was a matter of, Do I want to?

I looked at Peter and asked the doctor: ''Is it possible to get rid of one of them? Or two of them?'' The obstetrician wasn't an expert in selective reduction, but she knew that with a shot of potassium chloride you could eliminate one or more.

Having felt physically fine up to this point, I got on the subway afterward, and all of a sudden, I felt ill. I didn't want to eat anything. What I was going through seemed like a very unnatural experience. On the subway, Peter asked, ''Shouldn't we consider having triplets?'' And I had this adverse reaction: ''This is why they say it's the woman's choice, because you think I could just carry triplets. That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life.'' Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn't be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks. When I found out about the triplets, I felt like: It's not the back of a pickup at 16, but now I'm going to have to move to Staten Island. I'll never leave my house because I'll have to care for these children. I'll have to start shopping only at Costco and buying big jars of mayonnaise. Even in my moments of thinking about having three, I don't think that deep down I was ever considering it.

The specialist called me back at 10 p.m. I had just finished watching a Boston Pops concert at Symphony Hall. As everybody burst into applause, I watched my cellphone vibrating, grabbed it and ran into the lobby. He told me that he does a detailed sonogram before doing a selective reduction to see if one fetus appears to be struggling. The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus. There are a lot more complications when a woman carries multiples. And so, from the doctor's perspective, it's a matter of trying to save the woman this trauma. After I talked to the specialist, I told Peter, ''That's what I'm going to do.'' He replied, ''What we're going to do.'' He respected what I was going through, but at a certain point, he felt that this was a decision we were making. I agreed.

When we saw the specialist, we found out that I was carrying identical twins and a stand alone. My doctors thought the stand alone was three days older. There was something psychologically comforting about that, since I wanted to have just one. Before the procedure, I was focused on relaxing. But Peter was staring at the sonogram screen thinking: Oh, my gosh, there are three heartbeats. I can't believe we're about to make two disappear. The doctor came in, and then Peter was asked to leave. I said, ''Can Peter stay?'' The doctor said no. I know Peter was offended by that.

Two days after the procedure, smells no longer set me off and I no longer wanted to eat nothing but sour-apple gum. I went on to have a pretty seamless pregnancy. But I had a recurring feeling that this was going to come back and haunt me. Was I going to have a stillbirth or miscarry late in my pregnancy?

I had a boy, and everything is fine. But thinking about becoming pregnant again is terrifying. Am I going to have quintuplets? I would do the same thing if I had triplets again, but if I had twins, I would probably have twins. Then again, I don't know.

MattHughesRocks
09-22-2009, 05:44 AM
That was so sickening. All I read was " me me me me me me me me" :no:

Play The Man
09-22-2009, 06:10 AM
That was so sickening. All I read was " me me me me me me me me" :no:

I think the most shocking quote was:
I'll have to start shopping only at Costco and buying big jars of mayonnaise.
This female aborted two fetuses from a set of triplets in order to avoid buying mayonnaise at Costco!:angry: She didn't even try to justify it by claiming that she was trying to minimize the risk of complications to her during the pregnancy. She brazenly admitted her selfishness.

Twinsmama
09-22-2009, 01:38 PM
Oh my gosh that is terrible. I wish people like that couldn't even have kids. they sure don't deserve them.

County Mike
09-22-2009, 01:54 PM
It seems the dumbest people are the most fertile.

NateR
09-22-2009, 02:57 PM
That was so sickening. All I read was " me me me me me me me me" :no:

Exactly, all I could think of when I read that article was "What a self-serving bitch."

I actually worry about the mental health of the child that she "graciously" allowed to live. Imagine growing up knowing that your mother murdered two of your siblings because they were simply an inconvenience to her. I don't think it's possible to feel truly secure and loved in a household such as that one.

Twinsmama
09-22-2009, 03:43 PM
Exactly, all I could think of when I read that article was "What a self-serving bitch."

I actually worry about the mental health of the child that she "graciously" allowed to live. Imagine growing up knowing that your mother murdered two of your siblings because they were simply an inconvenience to her. I don't think it's possible to feel truly secure and loved in a household such as that one.


that kid better always be on his best behavior. the saying goes "i brought you into this world i can take you out" i always thought moms were bluffing...:Whistle:

I also don't think you could feel loved in a household such as this one. The mother obviously loves her self so much she would kill anything inconviencing her life. I bet see is one fine mother....

MattHughesRocks
09-22-2009, 03:44 PM
Or she could have sold the unwanted ones and make plenty of money for shopping :)

Twinsmama
09-22-2009, 03:48 PM
Or she could have sold the unwanted ones and make plenty of money for shopping :)

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

on a serious note though , you know how rare it is to have triplets without fertility drugs. she was so blessed...she didn't even see it.

MattHughesRocks
09-22-2009, 03:53 PM
And she is going to have a heck of a time one day when she does.If you think about it...she's seriously messed up.It's sad really...

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

on a serious note though , you know how rare it is to have triplets without fertility drugs. she was so blessed...she didn't even see it.

Chris Wescott
09-22-2009, 05:59 PM
I am a strong man, but when it comes to this...when it comes to the vicious cold blooded murder of unborn human beings, it hits me right in the heart and brings me to tears.

These 'people' are killing God's greatest gift to them. Do they have no idea? The ability to create life? Do they not know that this is a blessing and a gift given to them directly from God?

And to think than anyone would even imagine to kill this living, defenseless, utterly innocent baby growing inside their own life giving womb their body was meant to produce?

I don't care about their petty arguments and rationalizations of convenience or how it will change their lives or how it was unplanned. Are they welcomed to kill their elementary school children because they lack the time to drive them to soccer practice?

Someone please help me to understand why these killers should not be prosecuted with first degree pre-meditated murder. Where is God's justice. God is weeping with me.

How about this, the consequence of having an abortion is being convicted of first degree murder then sterilized so they can't kill again. Pure, simple, takes care of the problem and sets the right example.

:bawling: :mad0233: :ninja:

Am I too hard core on this?

-Chris

Chris Wescott
09-22-2009, 06:05 PM
I want and need to do something about this. May as well put my passion to good practical use.

Please email me at wescottc@live.com if you have any recommendations.

-Chris

Mac
09-22-2009, 06:09 PM
I am a strong man, but when it comes to this...when it comes to the vicious cold blooded murder of unborn human beings, it hits me right in the heart and brings me to tears.

These 'people' are killing God's greatest gift to them. Do they have no idea? The ability to create life? Do they not know that this is a blessing and a gift given to them directly from God?

And to think than anyone would even imagine to kill this living, defenseless, utterly innocent baby growing inside their own life giving womb their body was meant to produce?

I don't care about their petty arguments and rationalizations of convenience or how it will change their lives or how it was unplanned. Are they welcomed to kill their elementary school children because they lack the time to drive them to soccer practice?

Someone please help me to understand why these killers should not be prosecuted with first degree pre-meditated murder. Where is God's justice. God is weeping with me.

How about this, the consequence of having an abortion is being convicted of first degree murder then sterilized so they can't kill again. Pure, simple, takes care of the problem and sets the right example.

:bawling: :mad0233: :ninja:

Am I too hard core on this?

-Chris

I agree 100% Chris


It just makes me sick to my stomach and see blinding rage all at the same time . I dont see how anyone can be sooooooo cold .

I would normally say these people need to be shot . But if you think about it , they are already dead . The lives they lead are nothing more than materialistic shells of existance. They are not living or enjoying what makes life so great , they are killing it , i cannot see anything in these peoples lives that would make it worth living .


All i got to say is they should make a request for thier funeral , Better ask the undertaker to dress them in something light and leave the sweaters in the closet , dont think theyll be needing them.

Rev
09-22-2009, 07:40 PM
:lookaround:Thats strange, I dont see any of the liberals posting on this subject. hmm.
This is a topic that gets me so angry that I want to just beat someone down with no mercy. I could honestly slap a woman over this.

Rev
09-22-2009, 07:42 PM
Now come with it. Ask how I could be like this and be a preacher. Question my calling.:mischievous:

County Mike
09-22-2009, 07:55 PM
I'd never hit a woman.



But I'll shake a bitch.

que
09-23-2009, 12:30 AM
i don't get it, the article isn't very clear. did she self abort her babies by taking pills?

in one part of the article she says she doesn't want to have abortion and then in another part she says she did it on purpose. wtf? is she schizophrenic?

TexasRN
09-23-2009, 12:41 AM
i don't get it, the article isn't very clear. did she self abort her babies by taking pills?

in one part of the article she says she doesn't want to have abortion and then in another part she says she did it on purpose. wtf? is she schizophrenic?


I think she meant that she was not taking her birth control pills regularly so was knowingly chancing pregnancy every month. A lot of women refer to BC pills just as "the pill" or "pill".


~Amy

adamt
09-23-2009, 01:52 AM
I want and need to do something about this. May as well put my passion to good practical use.

Please email me at wescottc@live.com if you have any recommendations.

-Chris


have as many "blessings" as you can and train them up to fear the Lord.

breed the pagans out......

Neezar
09-23-2009, 03:40 AM
I'd never hit a woman.



But I'll shake a bitch.


:laugh:

KENTUCKYREDBONE
09-23-2009, 07:30 AM
That was so sickening. All I read was " me me me me me me me me" :no:

I really am convinced that is the attitude behind most Abortions! They wanta dance but not pay the fiddler! I really think that if they had to show legit medical reasons before having an Abortion that would cut the abortion rate by 90% or better!

Krupp
09-23-2009, 11:54 AM
This is why I generally hate people overall...I still wonder sometimes why God hasn't just wiped us out. He'd be doing all of the rest of His creation a favor.

Primadawn
09-23-2009, 02:43 PM
I'd never hit a woman.



But I'll shake a bitch.

I love you! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Chris Wescott
09-23-2009, 03:13 PM
:lookaround:Thats strange, I dont see any of the liberals posting on this subject. hmm.
This is a topic that gets me so angry that I want to just beat someone down with no mercy. I could honestly slap a woman over this.

To me there is only one side to this argument. I just don't get how anyone can have an argument that killing is good. Argue that and you argue against the 10 commandments. Argue that and you are dead. :punch::punch::punch:

Someone needs to stop this. If the 'government' isn't going to do it, someone has to. Sitting back and leeting this happen is a slap to the face of the Lord.

:mellow:

County Mike
09-23-2009, 05:19 PM
I love you! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

:w00t:

Spiritwalker
09-24-2009, 02:10 AM
It seems the dumbest people are the most fertile.

oh my... that is about as accurate a statement as I have ever heard!!

Chris Wescott
09-24-2009, 08:25 PM
It seems the dumbest people are the most fertile.

Yeah, maybe God intended for there to be a heck of a lot more indians and fewer chiefs as the saying goes...

But if we are equating dumb with child murderers I think they are two different things. I don't think these muderers are dumb neccesarily, I think they believe that they are faced with a cross roads. Should I kill my baby, or have more inconveninece and they choose to kill. :huh: