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TheConcretekid
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Bloodyelbow (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/6/751325/if-bj-penn-wants-a-rematch)has the transcript from BJs Blog:


For the past several days I have been reading statements made by St. Pierre and Greg Jackson about our fight on January 31. St. Pierre claims that he is "not a cheater" and that he and Greg Jackson will have "no problem with a rematch in the summer of 2009." To the untrained eye the grease might not look like much, but every grappler knows the effect that it has. Being able to apply your submissions and sweeps or just being able to hold on to your opponent to defend yourself from being hit is absolutely critical! There is a reason why you are not allowed to put grease anywhere on your body except for the area around your eyes. Because of the grease applied to St.Pierre’s Body the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s executive director, Keith Kizer has stated that the Penn-St. Pierre fight "definitely wasn’t fair". I hereby accept George St. Pierre and Greg Jackson’s challenge for a fight in the summer 2009. Lets call Dana now and set it up.


So what does Dana do? "Summer of 09" may mean "July of 09" or UFC 100.
BJ vs. GSP worked pretty well to bring people in once, will it work again?
Can BJ's body take another 5 round beating?
Should the WW and LW divisions get put on hold until these guys settle this?

rearnakedchoke
02-06-2009, 01:45 PM
i don't see dana putting this on .... so let bj fght klo and gsp fight alves and we will see what he does .... bj would get an even worse beating this time so i would pay for this ppv no matter the price ...

KevinD
02-06-2009, 01:58 PM
I never used to like BJ much, but I must say, I am starting to really like him. I think a rematch down the road would be good. I wouldn't want to see this in the summer, rather more like a New Years card. Let GSP fight Alves and let BJ fight Kenny. Then after that let the talk of a rematch begin.

rockdawg21
02-06-2009, 02:26 PM
This is ridiculous. Vaseline or not, BJ is going to get his ass kicked again. He belongs in the LW division.

TDPARKASH
02-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Let's do it, A lot of people have been on GSP lately. Even here on this forum, he manned up and called for a re-match. BJ accepted it, let's do it.


What's the problem here guys? There will be no contreviosry this time around, and we will definitely know if GSP will be at the top of the heat in this division.

Let's get some closure to this never ending topic.

billythekid2000
02-06-2009, 03:03 PM
There will still be controvsersy. GSP will come in with no vaseline on his body, checked by officials, conrnermen scrutinized, and BJ will still say GSP felt greasy, or some other excuse, maybe GSP is on roids.

KevinD
02-06-2009, 03:08 PM
I think the comission should keep some sample of GSP's blood so that in 5 or 6 years from now when the substance he MAY be on is actually known and a test is developed to detect it we will have a definitive answer.

billwilliams70
02-06-2009, 03:24 PM
I say, when each of them have their respective title defenses.....they should be given the opportunity to fight again.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/images/smilies/sport-smiley-002.gif

Later.

rockdawg21
02-06-2009, 03:43 PM
It's a bunch of crap. GSP is going to kick BJ's ass again. BJ should fight KenFlo so he can say KenFlo is greasy.

Alves should get his shot at GSP. Perhaps there can be a condition with this fight - GSP can wear Vaseline if Alves fails to make weight or uses diuretics to make weight. :rotfl:

ufcfan2
02-06-2009, 03:46 PM
I say, when each of them have their respective title defenses.....they should be given the opportunity to fight again.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/images/smilies/sport-smiley-002.gif

Later.
Agreed. Let the defend their titles and then lets see about a rematch at the end of the year.
Though I'd rather each of them just move on and do their own thing. This 'Grease-Gate' is already getting old and if they do a rematch then this continues on.

rearnakedchoke
02-06-2009, 04:24 PM
It's a bunch of crap. GSP is going to kick BJ's ass again. BJ should fight KenFlo so he can say KenFlo is greasy (in case anybody forgot or didn't remember, Huerta said KenFlo felt greasy).

Alves should get his shot at GSP. Perhaps there can be a condition with this fight - GSP can wear Vaseline if Alves fails to make weight or uses diuretics to make weight. :rotfl:
I believe it was Kenny that said the Mexican was err I mean felt greasy ...

Spiritwalker
02-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Let's do it, A lot of people have been on GSP lately. Even here on this forum, he manned up and called for a re-match. BJ accepted it, let's do it.


What's the problem here guys? There will be no contreviosry this time around, and we will definitely know if GSP will be at the top of the heat in this division.

Let's get some closure to this never ending topic.


But yiour assuming that GSP isn't at the top of the heap now... He is.

rockdawg21
02-06-2009, 05:05 PM
I believe it was Kenny that said the Mexican was err I mean felt greasy ...
Oh yes, my bad!

TDPARKASH
02-06-2009, 05:28 PM
I am not saying he's not, but this will prove without a doubt that he is. No excuses, no complaints etc.

If BJ can win, it will make this story even more interesting. I know BJ can put on a better performance, and this will make him hungry too.

Trust me, you will see a much different BJ next time around. He know knows GSP's strategy and hopefully will be much quicker in his transitions this time around.

I guarantee you people will want to see this fight. For the people that feel GSP greased, I don't think GSP would mind a re-match. Matt H, Serra, Sean.

As an MMA fan, I would love to see those fights happen again.


But yiour assuming that GSP isn't at the top of the heap now... He is.

rockdawg21
02-06-2009, 06:28 PM
If BJ can win, it will make this story even more interesting. I know BJ can put on a better performance, and this will make him hungry too.
Not really. BJ's hungry when he's fighting at lightweight. That's why he likes to fight at WW, so he can eat more and train less hard. :laugh:

bradwright
02-06-2009, 06:35 PM
Not really. BJ's hungry when he's fighting at lightweight. That's why he likes to fight at WW, so he can eat more and train less hard. :laugh:

that pretty much sums it up,,:laugh:

que
02-06-2009, 08:03 PM
well GSP is the one who challanged him first.


either way it's stupid. but you can't blame him for not backing down from GSP's challenge


it's time to move on, though

NateR
02-06-2009, 08:36 PM
I think Dana should make them defend the title one more time each in their respective weight divisions. Then, after they successfully defend their belts, they can fight again.

It's just not fair to the other guys in their divisions to have to wait for this little grudge match to resolve itself.

TheConcretekid
02-06-2009, 08:39 PM
well GSP is the one who challanged him first.


either way it's stupid. but you can't blame him for not backing down from GSP's challenge


it's time to move on, though


The original "challange" GSP at question was semi-sarcastic at best. GSP also said that he'd wear a rashguard for it.

Tyburn
02-06-2009, 08:40 PM
GSP and Penn can talk smack all they want...its up to Dana to actually confirm it...I think he'd be most dissapointed by the performance this week, not because Penn lost, not because GSP got accused of cheating...but because Penn didnt really put up much of a fight.

The whole idea is vastly UNFAIR to GSP who has all to lose, whereas Penn has nothing to lose if he fails except shame, which he can hide with the appropriate excuse. GSP is missing the point if he thinks this would all go away with a third win over Penn...people are going to be questioning and talking about all his past matches for the rest of his entire career I expect.

The damage is already done. :unsure-1:

atomdanger
02-06-2009, 08:40 PM
Wandy worked over Rampage twice, and looked what happened.

I think it could be an interesting fight.

Crisco
02-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Same exact result as the last fight.

GSP by whatever he wants.

rearnakedchoke
02-06-2009, 11:13 PM
i just read this from another poster on sherdog and think it isn't a bad idea ... since bj got beat handily, if he wants another shot, should he have to vacate the lw title and fight someone like fitch or kos to get the title shot at gsp, this way he doesn't hold up the lw title and shows he is serious

Preach
02-07-2009, 12:06 AM
Lets get it on WAR BJ

Jason 16
02-07-2009, 12:16 AM
i just read this from another poster on sherdog and think it isn't a bad idea ... since bj got beat handily, if he wants another shot, should he have to vacate the lw title and fight someone like fitch or kos to get the title shot at gsp, this way he doesn't hold up the lw title and shows he is serious

or hold up the WW title, there are tons of people that are shooting for it too

Crisco
02-07-2009, 12:51 AM
I don't think Penn can beat GSP and it's a waste of time IMO. There is no point in holding another fight between the two right now.

Let them both defend there belts and then do it. Additional build up.

CHITOWNHUGHESFAN
02-07-2009, 01:02 AM
To all who you want to ignore the fact Vaseline was applied in some way to GSP back is shocking. You are doing a disservice to the sport of MMA. Get over the fact it was BJ Penn.
Imagine it was GSP you glory boy. There SHOULD NOT be a advantage in ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM for outside the ring. Do you agree yes or no? Hopefully your answer yes. If not . We know your opinion is tainted. Free MMA of steroids and everything else to give a opponent a unfair advantage:punch: !!
If GSP wants to do it again. Then lets get it on!!

bradwright
02-07-2009, 01:05 AM
I think Dana should make them defend the title one more time each in their respective weight divisions. Then, after they successfully defend their belts, they can fight again.

It's just not fair to the other guys in their divisions to have to wait for this little grudge match to resolve itself.
I agree with Nate,,only because i dont want him to yell at me any more,,:cry:

Hughes_GOAT
02-07-2009, 04:13 AM
the UFC should allow Gi's, rash guards, Aoki tights and shoes.

MattHughesRocks
02-07-2009, 04:18 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean bradwright. He hits me sometimes :unsure-1:

I agree with Nate,,only because i dont want him to yell at me any more,,:cry:

Tyburn
02-07-2009, 12:39 PM
I agree with Nate,,only because i dont want him to yell at me any more,,:cry:
:laugh:

Tyburn
02-07-2009, 12:40 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean bradwright. He hits me sometimes :unsure-1:
only when you ask him to :mischievous: :whip:

J.B.
02-07-2009, 01:32 PM
Bloodyelbow (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/6/751325/if-bj-penn-wants-a-rematch)has the transcript from BJs Blog:




So what does Dana do? "Summer of 09" may mean "July of 09" or UFC 100.
BJ vs. GSP worked pretty well to bring people in once, will it work again?
Can BJ's body take another 5 round beating?
Should the WW and LW divisions get put on hold until these guys settle this?

No, no, and NO.

TexasRN
02-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean bradwright. He hits me sometimes :unsure-1:


Spanking isn't "hitting". :laugh:


~Amy

Tyburn
02-07-2009, 03:48 PM
Spanking isn't "hitting". :laugh:


~Amy
Depends how hard you "hit it" :blink:

:laugh:

TonyCap
02-08-2009, 03:58 AM
I think it's time for BJ to let it go... it's over... he lost twice. If he has the same attitude towards training and the same ego, he will get his behind handed to him once again. I for one, would skip that fight, unless it was on for free.

bj44
02-08-2009, 05:49 AM
I like how bj quits and then wants a rematch!!!

If he really wanted to fight GSP he should of done it the first time lol. He didnt even show up to fight.

MattHughesRocks
02-08-2009, 06:14 AM
I say we watch BJ get beat up again. it's fun every time!

StizzoFoShizzo
02-11-2009, 07:38 PM
This is all fine and dandy, but what is the source of this BJ quote? Can someone send me a link to that actual interview or story where Penn makes this statement?

Crisco
02-11-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm not ignoring the vaseline simply saying that he has no chance at beating GSP other then flash knockout. It's a waste GSP destructed him on every level vaseline was not an issue in it. There is no point in holding up the divisions any further then they have already.

Spiritwalker
02-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Not really. BJ's hungry when he's fighting at lightweight. That's why he likes to fight at WW, so he can eat more and train less hard. :laugh:


Set. Point. and MATCH!

Da Winner!!