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que
09-02-2009, 09:01 AM
he also slams joe rogan

http://mmamania.com/2009/09/01/frank-mir-slams-joe-rogans-pro-nog-ufc-102-commentating-tells-fedor-to-quit-and-go-home/

Krupp
09-02-2009, 12:06 PM
I think Mir needs to stop talking for a little while...one win over Nog and a loss to Brock doesn't make you a sudden master of opinion.

rockdawg21
09-02-2009, 12:42 PM
Damn, I hope nobody else gets punched by Brock, lol

Crisco
09-02-2009, 01:01 PM
summary? copy and paste?

Miss Foxy
09-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Mir needs to stfu. He is trying to take some of the embarrassment off him getting beat down..Shows how stupid this fool really is..I don't feel sorry for him no more. His fists can't back up his mouth. Fedor would beat the crap out of Brock and everyone else that has any wild ideas they could beat him.. Sorry, but the truth hurts!

GnP
09-02-2009, 02:20 PM
Thatís Kind of a misleading title, the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove what do you say about that. Mir replies thatís a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear, not exactly aimed Directly at Fedor. (Although it is probably still a slight insult)

Completely agree with his sentiments to fighters being the best in strikeforec only not the world as opposed to the best in UFC being the best in the world, itís just a much stronger level of competition.

Llamafighter
09-02-2009, 02:53 PM
summary? copy and paste?

(on Rogan)Mir says he is disappointed that Rogan was making excuses for Nog and why he lost to Frank. "Everybody has reasons they don't fight at 100% in certain fights". he says it's sad to make excuses
(on Lesnar)Mir says Brock made better improvements between their 2 fights than he did and beat himfair and square
(on Fedor)He thinks Fedor's management is to blame for his decision not to fight in UFC and be considered Best in the world.
In response to Fedor's feeling that he doesn't have anything to prove. Frank says everyone should wake up every day with something to prove. If you don't have anything to prove you should hang it up go home retire and disappear.
blah blah blah...

que
09-02-2009, 03:33 PM
That’s Kind of a misleading title, the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove what do you say about that. Mir replies that’s a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear, not exactly aimed Directly at Fedor. (Although it is probably still a slight insult)


well sorry, i couldn't fit "the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove and Mir replies that’s a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear" into the thread title. i'm sorry i mislead you and and ruined your day. i hope you can forgive me for this awful sin and atrocious mistake i have committed. and you're right it is a slight insult towards fedor and that is why i put it in the title so deal with it home slice.

Llamafighter
09-02-2009, 05:05 PM
well sorry, i couldn't fit "the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove and Mir replies thatís a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear" into the thread title. i'm sorry i mislead you and and ruined your day. i hope you can forgive me for this awful sin and atrocious mistake i have committed. and you're right it is a slight insult towards fedor and that is why i put it in the title so deal with it home slice.

I hate what you did, too :angry:


;)

eric84
09-02-2009, 05:55 PM
I agree about the part he said if you don't want to prove anything else, this is a competitive sport, that's what the fans want to see. I don't agree with his comment about how only int he UFC can you be called the best in the world, that isn't the way it works. That might be true in some cases(Anderson Silva), but it's not cut and dry. I doubt that he really thinks much about what he says, he seems just to spit out whatever comes to mind at first to him.

Anyone have pictures of his face after the fight, like after he is cleaned up, and maybe a few days after with the coloring?

GnP
09-02-2009, 06:12 PM
well sorry, i couldn't fit "the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove and Mir replies thatís a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear" into the thread title. i'm sorry i mislead you and and ruined your day. i hope you can forgive me for this awful sin and atrocious mistake i have committed. and you're right it is a slight insult towards fedor and that is why i put it in the title so deal with it home slice.


You might wanna wind your neck in there mate at no point did I have a go at you or say it was a ridiculous post. Just thought it was phrased to make Mir look worse than the actual Interview did as is so often the case.

Your massive over reaction is equal parts funny and sad though :)

F34R
09-02-2009, 08:53 PM
well sorry, i couldn't fit "the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove and Mir replies thatís a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear" into the thread title. i'm sorry i mislead you and and ruined your day. i hope you can forgive me for this awful sin and atrocious mistake i have committed. and you're right it is a slight insult towards fedor and that is why i put it in the title so deal with it home slice.
You could have just simple put "Mir Interviewed by Whatever the place was the interviewed him". Instead you chose to put a sensationalistic title hoping to spur more negative responses. It's called trolling.

GnP
09-02-2009, 10:37 PM
You could have just simple put "Mir Interviewed by Whatever the place was the interviewed him". Instead you chose to put a sensationalistic title hoping to spur more negative responses. It's called trolling.


Exactly

Straight Right
09-03-2009, 12:49 AM
I don't particularly like Mir but that's a fair statement. If Fedor doesn't have anything left to prove and wants to rest on his past accomplishments, then yeah he should retire instead of becoming "King of Strikeforce." And its true, even co-promoting (and yes I know Fedor is a part owner of M-1) Strikeforce in some way I doubt he's making more there than he would have in the UFC so it isn't really about the money despite all the B.S. I'm not saying that Brock would beat him or any of the UFC heavyweights for that matter, but we'll never know with him and M-1 hiding behind the co-promotion sticking point. He may be the best, but he's soon going to become an afterthought and irrelevant once he cleans out Strikeforce and has no one left to fight but B-level cans. Apparently he really doesn't have anything left to prove if that's who he wants to fight.

atomdanger
09-03-2009, 09:09 AM
(on Rogan)Mir says he is disappointed that Rogan was making excuses for Nog and why he lost to Frank. "Everybody has reasons they don't fight at 100% in certain fights". he says it's sad to make excuses
(on Lesnar)Mir says Brock made better improvements between their 2 fights than he did and beat himfair and square
(on Fedor)He thinks Fedor's management is to blame for his decision not to fight in UFC and be considered Best in the world.
In response to Fedor's feeling that he doesn't have anything to prove. Frank says everyone should wake up every day with something to prove. If you don't have anything to prove you should hang it up go home retire and disappear.
blah blah blah...

The funny thing, Rogan didn't make excuses, facts are facts,
Frank Mir knows he didn't fight the best Big Nog.

atomdanger
09-03-2009, 09:16 AM
I don't particularly like Mir but that's a fair statement. If Fedor doesn't have anything left to prove and wants to rest on his past accomplishments, then yeah he should retire instead of becoming "King of Strikeforce." And its true, even co-promoting (and yes I know Fedor is a part owner of M-1) Strikeforce in some way I doubt he's making more there than he would have in the UFC so it isn't really about the money despite all the B.S. I'm not saying that Brock would beat him or any of the UFC heavyweights for that matter, but we'll never know with him and M-1 hiding behind the co-promotion sticking point. He may be the best, but he's soon going to become an afterthought and irrelevant once he cleans out Strikeforce and has no one left to fight but B-level cans. Apparently he really doesn't have anything left to prove if that's who he wants to fight.

Fedor never had anything to prove.
Not all fighters fight to be the best, in fact, I have never seen or heard Fedor say he was the best, or ever wanted to be. To tell somebody they should go home because they do not have the same reasons for fighting that you think they should, is completely ridiculous.

The UFC is not full of top tier competition for Fedor to fight,
you can tell yourself that all day long, but it just isn't true. Other than Carwin, and Brock, who would Fedor fight? GG? Kongo? Come on... Those are much less interesting fights than Barnett (in Japan, #2 in the world), Overeem, Rogers, Werdum, Maybe Roger Gracie and Jeff Monson.

The competition is about equal IMO and I do not see where other than Brock people think the UFC is just filled with amazing HW's to beat Fedor. I also don't beleive you need to fight in the UFC to be the best. Look at LW, outside the UFC is offering much more competition right now than inside.
Other than BJ, who does the UFC really have?
Aoki, Hansen, JZ, Eddie Alvarez, Kawajiri, etc.. are all more interesting fights than Diego Sanchez.. then who? Maynard? Come on....

Do your own thinking, don't buy everything Dana White pushes down your throat,
I am pissed Fedor didn't come to the UFC as well,
but does it mean he isn't the best? Not even almost.

Straight Right
09-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Fedor never had anything to prove.
Not all fighters fight to be the best, in fact, I have never seen or heard Fedor say he was the best, or ever wanted to be. To tell somebody they should go home because they do not have the same reasons for fighting that you think they should, is completely ridiculous.

The UFC is not full of top tier competition for Fedor to fight,
you can tell yourself that all day long, but it just isn't true. Other than Carwin, and Brock, who would Fedor fight? GG? Kongo? Come on... Those are much less interesting fights than Barnett (in Japan, #2 in the world), Overeem, Rogers, Werdum, Maybe Roger Gracie and Jeff Monson.

The competition is about equal IMO and I do not see where other than Brock people think the UFC is just filled with amazing HW's to beat Fedor. I also don't beleive you need to fight in the UFC to be the best. Look at LW, outside the UFC is offering much more competition right now than inside.
Other than BJ, who does the UFC really have?
Aoki, Hansen, JZ, Eddie Alvarez, Kawajiri, etc.. are all more interesting fights than Diego Sanchez.. then who? Maynard? Come on....

Do your own thinking, don't buy everything Dana White pushes down your throat,
I am pissed Fedor didn't come to the UFC as well,
but does it mean he isn't the best? Not even almost.

Well I'm glad to hear that you know exactly why Fedor fights. He must be a close personal friend. I'm sure the hoodies and T-shirts they sell off the Red Devil site must mean something else than "Fedor #1" and "Nobody Beats Me." If that's not a declaration that you're the best, I'm not sure I know what is. If you read my post I never said that the UFC had all the best guys or that any of them would beat Fedor. Mostly that the co-promotion sticking point is crap. I'm not a Dana nuthugger, but the UFC was the organization that dug MMA out of obscurity and made it is what it is today, so I'm sure why they'd want to sign away a percentage of their profits to an organization that really only offers one fighter they are interested in and that fighter is part owner of said promotion. I'm not talking about other weight divisions so that's not really what I was commenting about. And yes until every fighter is under same promotion you're not going to get find out who the best really is and all the other exciting match ups. The heavyweight division is thin for every organization, but truly after Overeem and Rogers there's not much in Strikeforce for Fedor. Barnett? He's an interesting fight and I guess he'll end up back in Japan where they don't test for steriods, but Strikeforce isn't based out of Japan. Jeff Monson? I'm not sure he's top caliber. It just seems a simple point of fact that if Fedor wants to cement his legacy and quiet all the talk, he's not going to do that in Strikeforce or Japan it's going to be in the UFC. You're spewing a lot of venum and telling me to think for myself is a pretty big insult.

atomdanger
09-03-2009, 06:51 PM
Well I'm glad to hear that you know exactly why Fedor fights. He must be a close personal friend. I'm sure the hoodies and T-shirts they sell off the Red Devil site must mean something else than "Fedor #1" and "Nobody Beats Me." If that's not a declaration that you're the best, I'm not sure I know what is. If you read my post I never said that the UFC had all the best guys or that any of them would beat Fedor. Mostly that the co-promotion sticking point is crap. I'm not a Dana nuthugger, but the UFC was the organization that dug MMA out of obscurity and made it is what it is today, so I'm sure why they'd want to sign away a percentage of their profits to an organization that really only offers one fighter they are interested in and that fighter is part owner of said promotion. I'm not talking about other weight divisions so that's not really what I was commenting about. And yes until every fighter is under same promotion you're not going to get find out who the best really is and all the other exciting match ups. The heavyweight division is thin for every organization, but truly after Overeem and Rogers there's not much in Strikeforce for Fedor. Barnett? He's an interesting fight and I guess he'll end up back in Japan where they don't test for steriods, but Strikeforce isn't based out of Japan. Jeff Monson? I'm not sure he's top caliber. It just seems a simple point of fact that if Fedor wants to cement his legacy and quiet all the talk, he's not going to do that in Strikeforce or Japan it's going to be in the UFC. You're spewing a lot of venum and telling me to think for myself is a pretty big insult.


Well, for one I never claimed to know why he fights,
but he pretty much always says in interviews he doesn't fight to prove anything.
So..... think what you want I guess lol.

Strikeforce and Dream have a deal to Share fighters, even if they didn't you should know that SF contracts aren't exclusive, so Fedor can fight Barnett in Dream if he wants to either way.

Telling you to think for yourself isn't an insult, its advice.
Again, you're saying Fedor should come to the UFC to quiet the talk and cement his legacy when Fedor has made it clear he doesn't care about that sort of thing. If he cared what people thought he would have come straight to the UFC when Pride folded.
It just get frustrating to constantly hear talks about Fedor proving himself, or Fedor needing to cement his legacy and blah blah blah. Clearly that is not what is most important to the guy, and not every fighter fights so American's remember them as the best.

Jonlion
09-03-2009, 08:12 PM
Mir makes some fine points and on the main i agree with them all.

Mir is intelligent guy and before people tell him to STFU, bear in the mind the guy is being interviewed and asked questions.

You'd call him rude if he refused interviews.

Mac
09-03-2009, 09:00 PM
Mir spoke ALOT of truth right there . Cant argue with a thing the man said . He even gave alot of respect to Brock . Absolutley no excuses . The man just gained alot of cool points in my book.

atomdanger
09-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Mir makes some fine points and on the main i agree with them all.

Mir is intelligent guy and before people tell him to STFU, bear in the mind the guy is being interviewed and asked questions.

You'd call him rude if he refused interviews.

Nothing wrong with "no comment"

GnP
09-03-2009, 10:44 PM
Nothing wrong with "no comment"

if he went down that road then this thread Would still exist but with people claiming Dana had silenced his fighters. Or some ridiculous conspiracy theroy about how he was scared/bitter/jealous so said nothing.

He spoke the truth in my opinion, just some hate to hear it

atomdanger
09-04-2009, 05:30 AM
if he went down that road then this thread Would still exist but with people claiming Dana had silenced his fighters. Or some ridiculous conspiracy theroy about how he was scared/bitter/jealous so said nothing.

He spoke the truth in my opinion, just some hate to hear it

I don't mind the truth at all, in fact I like it when fighters are just honest.

In this case I just happen to disagree with Frank,
IMO you do not have to be a fighter to prove something.

atomdanger
09-04-2009, 06:55 AM
Oh and based on what we have seen recently my guess would be the number 1 shirts, etc... are more of a choice that Fedor's management makes, and not Fedor himself.

Tyburn
09-04-2009, 06:43 PM
there is a name for what Frank Mir has done here.

its called "PROJECTION" :ninja: :laugh:

Jason 16
09-04-2009, 07:46 PM
well sorry, i couldn't fit "the interviews says Fedor thinks he has nothing to prove and Mir replies thatís a sad state of affairs you should wake up every morning with something to prove. If you have nothing left to prove you should go home retire and disappear" into the thread title. i'm sorry i mislead you and and ruined your day. i hope you can forgive me for this awful sin and atrocious mistake i have committed. and you're right it is a slight insult towards fedor and that is why i put it in the title so deal with it home slice.

still going to hell:angry:

Neezar
09-04-2009, 10:49 PM
still going to hell:angry:

:scared0015:




:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Jason 16
09-05-2009, 02:53 AM
:scared0015:




:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


ummm.....to much?:unsure: :unsure-1: :laugh:

Neezar
09-05-2009, 03:10 AM
ummm.....to much?:unsure: :unsure-1: :laugh:

Not at all.


:laugh:

Jonlion
09-05-2009, 01:46 PM
Nothing wrong with "no comment"


I dont mind you disagreeing with him, but i agree with most of it.

All i ask is before people start asking people to STFU, i request they consider that he is being interviewed, he is being measured and expressing his thoughts.

All cool to me

David_Banner
09-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Come on... Those are much less interesting fights than Barnett (in Japan, #2 in the world), Overeem, Rogers, Werdum, Maybe Roger Gracie and Jeff Monson.


Hahahah thats funny.

David_Banner
09-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Franks comments about Randy were very interesting. I've actually gained some respect for him.

atomdanger
09-06-2009, 07:07 PM
Hahahah thats funny.

You think Brock is a more interesting fight than Barnett?

que
09-07-2009, 02:46 AM
In this case I just happen to disagree with Frank,
IMO you do not have to be a fighter to prove something.

i agree.

some fighters may fight to prove something (frank mir must be one of them) and more power to them if so. but not all fighters need or have to prove anything at all.

i think a good example of fighters who don't have anything to prove are the people like anderson silva, wanderlei, matt hughes, noguiera, couture, rich franklin, fedor, people like that. to them it is a martial art that they simply enjoy doing, and it's a form of income so they can support their family. but they have nothing to prove. some people are computer programmers, some are painters, some are martial artists. it's a job and a way of life

David_Banner
09-08-2009, 02:09 PM
You think Brock is a more interesting fight than Barnett?

On paper, no. In the cage, yes.

atomdanger
09-08-2009, 08:04 PM
i agree.

some fighters may fight to prove something (frank mir must be one of them) and more power to them if so. but not all fighters need or have to prove anything at all.

i think a good example of fighters who don't have anything to prove are the people like anderson silva, wanderlei, matt hughes, noguiera, couture, rich franklin, fedor, people like that. to them it is a martial art that they simply enjoy doing, and it's a form of income so they can support their family. but they have nothing to prove. some people are computer programmers, some are painters, some are martial artists. it's a job and a way of life


Well said.
I also think maybe for the guys who really want to prove something its hard to understand how somebody else can be a fighter and not worried about proving something / shutting people up. They seem to have an issue with fighters who aren't in it for fame / glory.