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GnP
08-27-2009, 07:56 AM
Fedor Emelianenko will make his Strikeforce debut against Brett Rogers but no date or venue have been named, Strikeforce vice president Mike Afromowitz confirmed to MMAWeekly.com.

Emelianenko, the top ranked heaavyweight in the world, inked a deal with Strikeforce on August 3 after Affliction decided it would no longer promote mixed martial arts events following the cancellation of Affliction: "Trilogy" that was scheduled to be headlined by Josh Barnett and Emelianenko.

Emelianenko made a name for himself in the Pride organization rising to the top of the heavyweight division. He dismantled former UFC heavyweight titleholders Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski in his last two outings.

Rogers, an undefeated heavyweight with a record of 10-0, is coming off a 22 second knockout win over Andrei Arlovski on June 6.

There have been rumors of an Oct. 10 date, but Afromowitz wouldn't confirm that date at this time.

Good lord this manís legacy becomes more diminished by the fight. Should have signed with the UFC :ninja:

ufcfan2
08-27-2009, 11:45 AM
Fedor Emelianenko will make his Strikeforce debut against Brett Rogers but no date or venue have been named, Strikeforce vice president Mike Afromowitz confirmed to MMAWeekly.com.

Emelianenko, the top ranked heaavyweight in the world, inked a deal with Strikeforce on August 3 after Affliction decided it would no longer promote mixed martial arts events following the cancellation of Affliction: "Trilogy" that was scheduled to be headlined by Josh Barnett and Emelianenko.

Emelianenko made a name for himself in the Pride organization rising to the top of the heavyweight division. He dismantled former UFC heavyweight titleholders Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski in his last two outings.

Rogers, an undefeated heavyweight with a record of 10-0, is coming off a 22 second knockout win over Andrei Arlovski on June 6.

There have been rumors of an Oct. 10 date, but Afromowitz wouldn't confirm that date at this time.

Good lord this manís legacy becomes more diminished by the fight. Should have signed with the UFC :ninja:
/sigh
Are u drinking the Koolaide that Dana's been making:wacko:

adamt
08-27-2009, 11:58 AM
it will be diminished if he gets beat.........

rearnakedchoke
08-27-2009, 01:12 PM
Dana can't say anything at this point as his HW div is also weak .. to be fair, if he calls Rogers a can, he will have to call Carwin the same thing .. two big undefeated dudes each coming off the biggest wins of their careers to fairly big names ... in this case, i would say that rogers is more proven than carwin ...

oh .. and if both rogers and carwin win, dana can set up a Superfight between the two undefeated champs ... LOL

Neezar
08-27-2009, 01:17 PM
Good lord this manís legacy becomes more diminished by the fight. Should have signed with the UFC :ninja:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/neezar086/smilies/lol_spitcoffee.gif

Crisco
08-27-2009, 01:32 PM
Fedor better not lose.

Llamafighter
08-27-2009, 01:35 PM
Fedor better not lose.

he won't. instead he'll make anyone who had the slightest thought that he would, feel like a jackass.
I'm guessing 1st round sub (choke)

Crisco
08-27-2009, 01:41 PM
he won't. instead he'll make anyone who had the slightest thought that he would, feel like a jackass.
I'm guessing 1st round sub (choke)

I'm thinking leg lock to be honest.

rockdawg21
08-27-2009, 01:47 PM
I predict Fedor by attempted manslaughter.

Neezar
08-27-2009, 01:48 PM
rearnakedchoke

GnP
08-27-2009, 02:37 PM
/sigh
Are u drinking the Koolaide that Dana's been making:wacko:


nope, no doubt he will win but he spends more time off or fighting cans than he does proving himself anymore, at least affliction gave us a brief demonstration of what people rave about. However when that died he once again had the chance to fight in the only org that matters but passed it up AGAIN due to yet more stupid co-promotion ideas.

Fedor v Brock or Randy has somewhat more clout that Rogers in my opinion.

Neezar
08-27-2009, 03:11 PM
nope, no doubt he will win but he spends more time off or fighting cans than he does proving himself anymore, at least affliction gave us a brief demonstration of what people rave about. However when that died he once again had the chance to fight in the only org that matters to me but passed it up AGAIN due to yet more stupid co-promotion ideas.

Fedor v Brock or Randy has somewhat more clout that Rogers in my opinion.

Fixed.

Neezar
08-27-2009, 03:19 PM
nope, no doubt he will win but he spends more time off or fighting cans than he does proving himself anymore, at least affliction gave us a brief demonstration of what people rave about.

Proving himself? Proving himself as what? Fedor is making decisions about his career based on his priorities not yours. To him and the people important to him, maybe proving himself means sticking to his guns and remaining loyal to his beliefs while negotiating his contract.

Fedor is proving himself to me. He is proving that some men still value some things over money. That ranks him pretty far up there in my book.

rearnakedchoke
08-27-2009, 04:45 PM
Proving himself? Proving himself as what? Fedor is making decisions about his career based on his priorities not yours. To him and the people important to him, maybe proving himself means sticking to his guns and remaining loyal to his beliefs while negotiating his contract.

Fedor is proving himself to me. He is proving that some men still value some things over money. That ranks him pretty far up there in my book.
pretty much .. i mean, what is he gonna say? oh, dana called me some names so i should go and make his company even more money than it already is??? fedor doesn't need to prove himself, as other orgs are willing to put him in fights ... everyone talks about how dana is bad for the sport, pays his fighters junk (i don't agree with those statements) and now the only guy that can really stand up to him does and he is called out for it? tito tried it and lost, randy tried it and lost, fitch tried it and lost ... fedor will never fight in the ufc, cuz his management won't let him get used ...

Llamafighter
08-27-2009, 05:03 PM
Proving himself? Proving himself as what? Fedor is making decisions about his career based on his priorities not yours. To him and the people important to him, maybe proving himself means sticking to his guns and remaining loyal to his beliefs while negotiating his contract.

Fedor is proving himself to me. He is proving that some men still value some things over money. That ranks him pretty far up there in my book.
:applause: :applause: :sign0011:

que
08-27-2009, 05:05 PM
why is the supposed "best P4P fighter in the world" fighting a non-top 10 HW?

fedor is not P4P as long as he keeps fighting UFC has-beens, cans, or non-top 10 fighters. while he is fighting these guys once per year, there are people like GSP, anderson and penn fighting the top fighters in the world at their weight class continuously and 3 times a year. he has nothing to gain from this fight and everything to lose. if he loses this fight it will be the biggest upset in MMA history

Crisco
08-27-2009, 05:19 PM
pretty much .. i mean, what is he gonna say? oh, dana called me some names so i should go and make his company even more money than it already is??? fedor doesn't need to prove himself, as other orgs are willing to put him in fights ... everyone talks about how dana is bad for the sport, pays his fighters junk (i don't agree with those statements) and now the only guy that can really stand up to him does and he is called out for it? tito tried it and lost, randy tried it and lost, fitch tried it and lost ... fedor will never fight in the ufc, cuz his management won't let him get used ...


except by them

ufcfan2
08-27-2009, 05:32 PM
nope, no doubt he will win but he spends more time off or fighting cans than he does proving himself anymore, at least affliction gave us a brief demonstration of what people rave about. However when that died he once again had the chance to fight in the only org that matters but passed it up AGAIN due to yet more stupid co-promotion ideas.

Fedor v Brock or Randy has somewhat more clout that Rogers in my opinion.
Well, I'll be rootin for Fedor,but I won't write off Rogers from winning with his KO power and size advantage. I don't know if UFC is the only org. that matters,well maybe too u,but I do like Strikeforce and would be nice if I could watch more of it(darn no Showtime).
At this stage of the game I don't know if I value a Fedor/Randy fight as I used to,but I still wanna see Fedor/Brock,Fedor/Mir,Fedor/GG,Fedor/CC II.
I wish he would of come to the UFC,but it just isn't meant to be so we just move on and deal. I just don't think Fedor cares about legacy and all that as we all do and what he thinks about it is all that matters.

Crisco
08-27-2009, 05:44 PM
Well, I'll be rootin for Fedor,but I won't write off Rogers from winning with his KO power and size advantage. I don't know if UFC is the only org. that matters,well maybe too u,but I do like Strikeforce and would be nice if I could watch more of it(darn no Showtime).
At this stage of the game I don't know if I value a Fedor/Randy fight as I used to,but I still wanna see Fedor/Brock,Fedor/Mir,Fedor/GG,Fedor/CC II.
I wish he would of come to the UFC,but it just isn't meant to be so we just move on and deal. I just don't think Fedor cares about legacy and all that as we all do and what he thinks about it is all that matters.


For real? you would rather see Gabe then Randy fight Fedor?

rearnakedchoke
08-27-2009, 06:00 PM
why is the supposed "best P4P fighter in the world" fighting a non-top 10 HW?

fedor is not P4P as long as he keeps fighting UFC has-beens, cans, or non-top 10 fighters. while he is fighting these guys once per year, there are people like GSP, anderson and penn fighting the top fighters in the world at their weight class continuously and 3 times a year. he has nothing to gain from this fight and everything to lose. if he loses this fight it will be the biggest upset in MMA history
like i said in an earlier post .. brock is fighting a guy who is probably lower rated than rogers .. carwin and rogers are both undefeated with one big win ... i think rogers win is better as he KO'd AA and from what i have seen, has never been rocked ... and anderson fighting cote, leites and irvin are far from top guys in the world ... i think anderson is the best p4p, but he hasn't fought the best either in 3 of his last four fights ...

GnP
08-27-2009, 06:22 PM
Proving himself? Proving himself as what? Fedor is making decisions about his career based on his priorities not yours. To him and the people important to him, maybe proving himself means sticking to his guns and remaining loyal to his beliefs while negotiating his contract.

Fedor is proving himself to me. He is proving that some men still value some things over money. That ranks him pretty far up there in my book.


How exactly is he proving he values other things more than money? By insisting on M1 Global co-promotion he is trying to grow a company which he is a part of which in the long run would bring him much more money than any fight contract. He is just trying to use the UFC to make his own company successful

GnP
08-27-2009, 06:25 PM
why is the supposed "best P4P fighter in the world" fighting a non-top 10 HW?

fedor is not P4P as long as he keeps fighting UFC has-beens, cans, or non-top 10 fighters. while he is fighting these guys once per year, there are people like GSP, anderson and penn fighting the top fighters in the world at their weight class continuously and 3 times a year. he has nothing to gain from this fight and everything to lose. if he loses this fight it will be the biggest upset in MMA history


Couldnt agree more

GnP
08-27-2009, 06:26 PM
like i said in an earlier post .. brock is fighting a guy who is probably lower rated than rogers .. carwin and rogers are both undefeated with one big win ... i think rogers win is better as he KO'd AA and from what i have seen, has never been rocked ... and anderson fighting cote, leites and irvin are far from top guys in the world ... i think anderson is the best p4p, but he hasn't fought the best either in 3 of his last four fights ...


Thats because Anderson had cleaned house, Fedor Just refuses to join the house with any challanges in it

Chuck
08-27-2009, 07:22 PM
Proving himself? Proving himself as what? Fedor is making decisions about his career based on his priorities not yours. To him and the people important to him, maybe proving himself means sticking to his guns and remaining loyal to his beliefs while negotiating his contract.

Fedor is proving himself to me. He is proving that some men still value some things over money. That ranks him pretty far up there in my book.
:happy0198:

I'm sure the whole co-promoting with the UFC clause in his contract had nothing to do with money... :wink:

The best competition in MMA is in the UFC... what Fedor HAS proven is that fighting the best competition in the world isn't one of his priorities....

must be his part of being loyal to his beliefs I guess :tongue0011:

Chuck
08-27-2009, 07:25 PM
why is the supposed "best P4P fighter in the world" fighting a non-top 10 HW?

fedor is not P4P as long as he keeps fighting UFC has-beens, cans, or non-top 10 fighters. while he is fighting these guys once per year, there are people like GSP, anderson and penn fighting the top fighters in the world at their weight class continuously and 3 times a year. he has nothing to gain from this fight and everything to lose. if he loses this fight it will be the biggest upset in MMA history
This.

+1

Agreed

Ditto

Spot On

Hell pick one I don't care but this post was brilliant.

Crisco
08-27-2009, 07:36 PM
like i said in an earlier post .. brock is fighting a guy who is probably lower rated than rogers .. carwin and rogers are both undefeated with one big win ... i think rogers win is better as he KO'd AA and from what i have seen, has never been rocked ... and anderson fighting cote, leites and irvin are far from top guys in the world ... i think anderson is the best p4p, but he hasn't fought the best either in 3 of his last four fights ...


I don't think Anyone rates Rogers above Carwin.


I think at this point GG is more dangerous then AA and being able to come back and knock a dude out while your rocked shows heart.

Rogers hasn't been fighting UFC quality oppenents.

Still its the coolest fight for Fedor ATM outside of the UFC.

rockdawg21
08-27-2009, 08:46 PM
why is the supposed "best P4P fighter in the world" fighting a non-top 10 HW?

fedor is not P4P as long as he keeps fighting UFC has-beens, cans, or non-top 10 fighters. while he is fighting these guys once per year, there are people like GSP, anderson and penn fighting the top fighters in the world at their weight class continuously and 3 times a year. he has nothing to gain from this fight and everything to lose. if he loses this fight it will be the biggest upset in MMA history
In no way would that possibly be worse than GSP losing to Serra. At the very least, Rogers is knocking dudes out left and right and is undefeated. It'd be an upset, but nowhere near the magnitude of GSP losing to Serra.

Chuck
08-27-2009, 08:51 PM
In no way would that possibly be worse than GSP losing to Serra. At the very least, Rogers is knocking dudes out left and right and is undefeated. It'd be an upset, but nowhere near the magnitude of GSP losing to Serra.
Agreed..... but mostly because I don't think Fedor is at the same level everybody else does. He's overrated.

rockdawg21
08-27-2009, 08:56 PM
Agreed..... but mostly because I don't think Fedor is at the same level everybody else does. He's overrated.
http://www.fansedge.com/Images/product/35-37/35-37818-P.jpg :laugh:

Krupp
08-27-2009, 10:15 PM
I think some people have forgotten how good Fedor's striking really is. He's deceptive about it. Anybody remember Daddy Goodridge? Anybody?

rearnakedchoke
08-27-2009, 11:57 PM
In no way would that possibly be worse than GSP losing to Serra. At the very least, Rogers is knocking dudes out left and right and is undefeated. It'd be an upset, but nowhere near the magnitude of GSP losing to Serra.
no way ... rogers over fedor would be way bigger than serra over gsp.. to date, serra holds the biggest upset, but so many people hold fedor as best in the world and for him to lose to someone who most people don't know would be bigger ...

Neezar
08-28-2009, 05:21 PM
:happy0198:

I'm sure the whole co-promoting with the UFC clause in his contract had nothing to do with money... :wink:

The best competition in MMA is in the UFC... what Fedor HAS proven is that fighting the best competition in the world isn't one of his priorities....

must be his part of being loyal to his beliefs I guess :tongue0011:

You are twisting the truth and you know it.

Neezar
08-28-2009, 05:25 PM
no way ... rogers over fedor would be way bigger than serra over gsp.. to date, serra holds the biggest upset, but so many people hold fedor as best in the world and for him to lose to someone who most people don't know would be bigger ...

If Rogers beats Fedor then I think that maybe I'll just lay me down and cry for a hundred years.

Chuck
08-28-2009, 10:20 PM
You are twisting the truth and you know it.
Where? :mellow:

Liddellfan
08-28-2009, 10:58 PM
Speaking of "the biggest upset in MMA history", remember when Kimbo got KO'd by Seth Petruzelli, at that time, EliteXC commentators said that was the biggest upset in MMA history:jumping0001:

I agree that Fedor losing would be a bigger upset than Serra over GSP. Fedor is well known and has been around and on top, or close to the top for a long time. Rogers is not known and is not anywhere the top 10HW's.