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Buzzard
08-11-2009, 03:53 AM
For some reason this lady's blog was in my bookmarks and this entry caught my eye when I went cleaning them out and seeing what the sites were.


Margaret. Forgive me honey for I have sinned… I realize now that President Obama is not perfect. I was wrong to suggest that Obama would rid the world of evil and walk on water while doing it. I was wrong to believe he was the Messiah. I can now say that he is not the smartest human to have ever lived and quite frankly he throws like a girl. Whew. That feels good to get off my chest.

I am a big enough woman to admit when I am wrong. But there is one thing wrong with all of this. I never said any of those things in the first place and neither did any Democrat I know. I never said he was perfect. I never expected him to solve all the problems of the world. And I know lots of women who can throw a ball better than most men. I recognize that he is human and I am sure most people in their right minds know that as well. But you would never know any of this if you listen to Rush Limbaugh. Evidently we Democrats are deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to Obama.

Bull****.

I am not giving Obama a free pass. I’m giving him a chance. He has four years to “make it or break it” as they say. And considering what George Bush did to it, breaking it is the least of our worries. Healthcare in the United State is broken. Our reputation around the globe is broken. The banks are broken. The tax system… the school systems… the environment - all broken. Someone needs to try and fix it. So why not Obama?

When George Bush was President I didn’t want him to fail. I wanted him to stop acting like an idiot. I wanted him to be honest and listen to the debate of the people. I didn’t expect him to act like a Democrat. I expected him to act like an American. And I expected him to at least try to keep his campaign promises. Instead what we got was a moron of a President who crawled up Dick Cheney’s ass and lived there for 8 years.

If all Rush Limbaugh can do is wish for Obama to fail and talk about what is wrong with America, then what’s the use of giving him airtime everyday? After 20 years hasn’t he made his point? If he had been right about anything along the way then certainly he would appeal to more than just angry white men or at the very least been promoted to FM radio.

Yesterday the Rush Limbaugh Show suggested that Walter Cronkite was just another liberal journalist who was responsible, evidently, for the deaths of 10,000 American soldiers during the Vietnam War. What in the world will it be tomorrow? Mother Theresa was selfishly hoarding food that otherwise could have ended world hunger? Seriously, Rush. It’s getting old. Eventually the sky has to be blue in your world.

Or does it?

Can you believe that 72 percent of Republicans have a favorable approval rating of Sarah Palin? The woman quit mid-stream and even that didn’t knock her off the pedestal. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, Margaret. After all his listeners agree with him on healthcare reform. Rush Limbaugh, a man who will never have to worry about the cost of insurance and admits to a prescription drug addiction, actually wants to challenge Obama on healthcare reform. Really? I am just stunned. And now they attack Walter Cronkite … the most trusted man in America… Uncle Walter. I guess the Americans with Disabilities Act needs to be revisited again to include “Republican” as a form of mental impairment because this has gotten out of hand. And I will gladly give up my mobility impaired classification and the great parking space that goes with it to make room for them.

Let me tell you about Walter Cronkite. Besides being sexier than Rush will ever be, Cronkite was someone you could respect even if you didn’t agree with him. He knew the difference between news and opinion and was quick to announce when he had switched from one to the other. Each evening for years he brought millions of Americans together to know and better understand the world around them. He was a man’s man who wasn’t offensive to women – unlike Rush who is an ass’s ass who couldn’t pay a woman to respect him… and I am sure he has tried.

In 1970, Cronkite received a “Freedom of the Press” George Polk Award. In 1981, the year he retired, Jimmy Carter awarded Cronkite the Presidential Medal of Freedom. In 1985, Cronkite was honored with the induction into the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences Hall of Fame. In 2006 Cronkite became the first non-astronaut to receive NASA’s Ambassador of Exploration Award. Cronkite’s numerous awards included four Peabody awards for excellence in broadcasting. Admittedly Cronkite was no Rush Limbaugh. Thank God.

Rush has made an entire career out of never admitting when he is wrong, and I find that very funny because Rush is the biggest person I know. Literally.

I mean it. Really.

It's an interesting thought.

huan
08-11-2009, 04:25 AM
I expected him to act like an American
Because in this day and age, acting like an American means demanding what you have not earned be taken from others and redistributed to you?

NateR
08-11-2009, 05:02 AM
Wow, this lady is kind of an idiot. Typical Brainwashed-Liberal stupidity.

Buzzard
08-11-2009, 07:22 AM
I figured the idiots wouldn't get it. Seems I hit that one out of the ballpark.

Kindly explain what parts you think are idiotic. Do you think it idiotic that she gives Obama a chance, as she did with Bush? Do you think it idiotic that she didn't want Bush to fail.

Is it only because she has views that differ with yours? You seem to like to call people names on here quite regularly when their views don't match your own. Why is that? You sure don't practice what you preach. You seem to have a lot of hate in you and it's quite pathetic when you can't make a statement without being so rude and obnoxious.

Tell us how you really feel.

huan
08-11-2009, 03:25 PM
I figured the idiots wouldn't get it. Seems I hit that one out of the ballpark.

Kindly explain what parts you think are idiotic. Do you think it idiotic that she gives Obama a chance, as she did with Bush? Do you think it idiotic that she didn't want Bush to fail.

Is it only because she has views that differ with yours? You seem to like to call people names on here quite regularly when their views don't match your own. Why is that? You sure don't practice what you preach. You seem to have a lot of hate in you and it's quite pathetic when you can't make a statement without being so rude and obnoxious.

Tell us how you really feel.

Her only statements concerning Bush were:

1) I didn't want him to fail. (a meaningless statement and typical leftist rhetoric that is little more than a jab at Rush Limbaugh)

2) Bush is an idiot.

3) Bush is dishonest and I wanted him to listen to and agree with people that have no regard for America's safety.

4) She wanted Bush to act like an American. (really? what the does this even mean? because she doesn't qualify it with anything other than noting that all government problems are both new and were brought about by Bush)

5) Apparently Bush kept zero campaign promises (which promises has Obama managed to keep besides killing more of the unborn?)

6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)

7) Bush crawled up Cheney's ass and lived there for 8 years (how intelligent and meaningful yet again)

Honestly I can only hope this is a fake blog written by George Soros, otherwise it's easy to become depressed at how blind some Americans really are. Let's assume it's real though. How on earth can you gather from what she wrote that she even attempted to give Bush a chance on earth at anything? The entire blog is full of hate and nonsensical diatribes against anyone considered a conservative. I knew I should have stopped reading after the first few paragraphs of utter nonsense, but against my better judgment I read on...

Thanks for calling me an idiot. If being an idiot means not willing to put up with the fascist, socialistic and unconstitutional trash being wrought by every branch of government, then I'll gladly be an idiot. Bush is not my personal hero, he made a lot of wrong decisions, especially when it came to unchecked spending. But it seems kind of obvious to me that taking what Bush did poorly, and doing it even worse is probably not the right direction is it?

Just remember, the majority of people that died so you could call anyone that doesn't agree with you an idiot were on the opposite side of the political spectrum as you. They didn't care though, and they would gladly do it again.

NateR
08-12-2009, 12:57 AM
Her only statements concerning Bush were:

1) I didn't want him to fail. (a meaningless statement and typical leftist rhetoric that is little more than a jab at Rush Limbaugh)

2) Bush is an idiot.

3) Bush is dishonest and I wanted him to listen to and agree with people that have no regard for America's safety.

4) She wanted Bush to act like an American. (really? what the does this even mean? because she doesn't qualify it with anything other than noting that all government problems are both new and were brought about by Bush)

5) Apparently Bush kept zero campaign promises (which promises has Obama managed to keep besides killing more of the unborn?)

6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)

7) Bush crawled up Cheney's ass and lived there for 8 years (how intelligent and meaningful yet again)

Honestly I can only hope this is a fake blog written by George Soros, otherwise it's easy to become depressed at how blind some Americans really are. Let's assume it's real though. How on earth can you gather from what she wrote that she even attempted to give Bush a chance on earth at anything? The entire blog is full of hate and nonsensical diatribes against anyone considered a conservative. I knew I should have stopped reading after the first few paragraphs of utter nonsense, but against my better judgment I read on...

Thanks for calling me an idiot. If being an idiot means not willing to put up with the fascist, socialistic and unconstitutional trash being wrought by every branch of government, then I'll gladly be an idiot. Bush is not my personal hero, he made a lot of wrong decisions, especially when it came to unchecked spending. But it seems kind of obvious to me that taking what Bush did poorly, and doing it even worse is probably not the right direction is it?

Just remember, the majority of people that died so you could call anyone that doesn't agree with you an idiot were on the opposite side of the political spectrum as you. They didn't care though, and they would gladly do it again.

I like your list, sums up this woman's stupidity pretty well.

Buzzard
08-12-2009, 02:38 AM
Her only statements concerning Bush were:

1) I didn't want him to fail. (a meaningless statement and typical leftist rhetoric that is little more than a jab at Rush Limbaugh)

So if anyone who isn't a conservative makes that comment it's typical leftist rhetoric right, while if a conservative were to make it it would be meaningful dialogue?

2) Bush is an idiot.
Bush is/was an idiot. He earned that title all on his own. I didn't always dislike him, but my opinion of him changed drastically with the blunders that he pulled out of his hat.

3) Bush is dishonest and I wanted him to listen to and agree with people that have no regard for America's safety.
Bush was dishonest, in my and many others opinions. Your mileage may vary.

4) She wanted Bush to act like an American. (really? what the does this even mean? because she doesn't qualify it with anything other than noting that all government problems are both new and were brought about by Bush)
You'd have to ask her what it means, I have some idea though. I sure didn't see where she blamed all government problems on Bush. You must have made that one up yourself.

5) Apparently Bush kept zero campaign promises (which promises has Obama managed to keep besides killing more of the unborn?)
I don't recall which campaign promises Bush kept or broke. I deleted my spreadsheet of it. Bush had 8 years to work on his campaign promises, Obama has only been in office for 8 months. I gave Bush a chance, surely I'll do the same for Obama.

6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)
Again, I tend to agree. I've got to hand it to him though, he is a rich moron who moved up the ladder with his silver spoon in his mouth.

7) Bush crawled up Cheney's ass and lived there for 8 years (how intelligent and meaningful yet again)
Bush was Cheney's puppet, not sure if he lived in Bush's ass though.

Honestly I can only hope this is a fake blog written by George Soros, otherwise it's easy to become depressed at how blind some Americans really are.I get depressed too when I see the blindness of some members of the conservative party. It goes both ways. There is blind followers on both sides of the coin.

Let's assume it's real though. How on earth can you gather from what she wrote that she even attempted to give Bush a chance on earth at anything?She stated so in the beginning. Just because she didn't make a list of all things that she gave him a chance on doesn't automatically mean she didn't. I gave Bush a chance too. Will you believe me or do I too have to list and document everything that I gave him a chance on and how well he did on each issue?

The entire blog is full of hate and nonsensical diatribes against anyone considered a conservative. I knew I should have stopped reading after the first few paragraphs of utter nonsense, but against my better judgment I read on...Wow, you read into a lot more than I did.

Thanks for calling me an idiot.I actually wasn't calling you an idiot, you just got caught in the middle of my throwing the idiot term back in the face of the one who used the term first. My apologies for that.

If being an idiot means not willing to put up with the fascist, socialistic and unconstitutional trash being wrought by every branch of government, then I'll gladly be an idiot. Bush is not my personal hero, he made a lot of wrong decisions, especially when it came to unchecked spending. But it seems kind of obvious to me that taking what Bush did poorly, and doing it even worse is probably not the right direction is it?
If you were to put up with it when Bush did it but not Obama, then you would be an idiot. Since you appear to have been against the stupid maneuvers on both sides, you seem to be giving each side equal disdain.

Just remember, the majority of people that died so you could call anyone that doesn't agree with you an idiot were on the opposite side of the political spectrum as you. They didn't care though, and they would gladly do it again.How can you clam to know what the majority of people who died thought? I am still having a bit of trouble understanding what your final point was.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to this though.

NateR
08-12-2009, 03:45 AM
:rolleyes:

Seriously, we had to live through 8 years of this anti-Bush nonsense, can't you people give it a rest?

Neezar
08-12-2009, 05:00 AM
:rolleyes:

Seriously, we had to live through 8 years of this anti-Bush nonsense, can't you people give it a rest?

No, because apparently they think if they can make Bush look bad then that somehow makes Obama look better. :blink: Just like he said this was an 'An old lady's view of Obama'. No, it wasn't. There were very few statements about Obama. The majority was bashing Bush and Rush.

Buzzard
08-12-2009, 05:33 AM
No, because apparently they think if they can make Bush look bad then that somehow makes Obama look better. :blink: Just like he said this was an 'An old lady's view of Obama'. No, it wasn't. There were very few statements about Obama. The majority was bashing Bush and Rush.

I erred in the naming the title, my mistake.

There wasn't much in the way of Bush bashing, there was one paragraph. The funny thing is I don't need to make Bush look bad, he did it all on his own. I will say that I still have hope, just as I did when Bush was in office. I'm not happy with everything Obama has done, but I'll still give the man more than 8 months of a chance to try to undo the damage of the past 8 years.

Limbaugh is a blowhard, I think even he would agree with that. He is great at spewing hate though and I'll give him the credit where it is due.

Have a great night all.

Neezar
08-12-2009, 10:46 AM
I erred in the naming the title, my mistake.

There wasn't much in the way of Bush bashing, there was one paragraph. The funny thing is I don't need to make Bush look bad, he did it all on his own. I will say that I still have hope, just as I did when Bush was in office. I'm not happy with everything Obama has done, but I'll still give the man more than 8 months of a chance to try to undo the damage of the past 8 years.

Limbaugh is a blowhard, I think even he would agree with that. He is great at spewing hate though and I'll give him the credit where it is due.

Have a great night all.

You see that?

This was part of my point. If people want to defend Obama, then defend Obama. But more often than not people start out to defend him and it turns into a Bush bash. It almost feels like people are saying, "Well, at least he looks good when comparing him to Bush." Is that all you got? I think it actually cheapens him (Obama).

NateR
08-12-2009, 02:55 PM
I'm not happy with everything Obama has done, but I'll still give the man more than 8 months of a chance to try to undo the damage of the past 8 years.

The question is not 'can Obama undo the damage of the previous 8 years' but instead can he reverse the damage of the first 8 months of his own Presidency?

I think Bush was a great President who made some mistakes and no amount of brainwashed liberal rhetoric is going to prove otherwise as far as I'm concerned. Of course, the economy failed on his watch, however (like 9/11), for those of us who have been paying attention, this economic crash was brewing long before Bush Jr. was elected.

It's funny that you criticize me for name-calling, yet continually defend and support this old lady's insults of President Bush. Hmm, hypocritical much?

Tyburn
08-12-2009, 11:01 PM
The question is not 'can Obama undo the damage of the previous 8 years' but instead can he reverse the damage of the first 8 months of his own Presidency??
:laugh: :laugh:

Rev
08-13-2009, 02:10 PM
"6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)
Again, I tend to agree. I've got to hand it to him though, he is a rich moron who moved up the ladder with his silver spoon in his mouth."

lol. kinda like Obama's rise up the ladder with affirmative action and being a "community organizer" (aka, racial divider).

Any insults you have for Bush will be null and void when the smoke clears because even the experts have said that in 10 years, a look back on his admin will show that he did pretty well with what Clinton left him to work with. You cant say anything about Obama not having anything to work with because he didnt want anything. He has a model that he is following perfectly, its called "Nazi Germany".

Dude, how do you come in here and just open fire on Nate? Alot of hate? Rude and obnoxious? He commented on a blog by someone who isnt even on this forum and the only person to be bothered was you, and thats fine. We can all feel how we want, but he didnt say anything to you. If him saying that she was an idiot makes him rude and obnoxious, then what does that make you?
"I figured the idiots wouldn't get it. Seems I hit that one out of the ballpark."

Is it because she isnt here to defend herself? Well you bashed Bush up pretty good and I dont see him around.

If people want to disagree, Great! Why does it have to be so hostile though? cant we just disagree and debate without the insults toward each other?

Crisco
08-13-2009, 02:18 PM
"6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)
Again, I tend to agree. I've got to hand it to him though, he is a rich moron who moved up the ladder with his silver spoon in his mouth."

lol. kinda like Obama's rise up the ladder with affirmative action and being a "community organizer" (aka, racial divider).

Any insults you have for Bush will be null and void when the smoke clears because even the experts have said that in 10 years, a look back on his admin will show that he did pretty well with what Clinton left him to work with. You cant say anything about Obama not having anything to work with because he didnt want anything. He has a model that he is following perfectly, its called "Nazi Germany".

Dude, how do you come in here and just open fire on Nate? Alot of hate? Rude and obnoxious? He commented on a blog by someone who isnt even on this forum and the only person to be bothered was you, and thats fine. We can all feel how we want, but he didnt say anything to you. If him saying that she was an idiot makes him rude and obnoxious, then what does that make you?
"I figured the idiots wouldn't get it. Seems I hit that one out of the ballpark."

Is it because she isnt here to defend herself? Well you bashed Bush up pretty good and I dont see him around.

If people want to disagree, Great! Why does it have to be so hostile though? cant we just disagree and debate without the insults toward each other?


IT would be awesome if Bush where here. I would love to meet him. Matt should write him a letter and make him get on here :tongue0011:

que
08-13-2009, 07:02 PM
i agree with pretty much everything she said. she speaks the truth from a very logical, rational and most importantly, unbiased base and you cannot argue anything she said

she was crude and rude, but her points were all truth. it is crude to say bush crawled up cheney's ass for 8 years, but it's true... he did. it was crude to call him an idiot, but he was. (well, he was not LITERALLY an idiot, he is a smart man, but he made idiotic decisions. alot of that should be blamed on cheney but alot of it should be blamed on bush as well for going ahead with all the decisions)

Buzzard
08-13-2009, 07:12 PM
You see that?

This was part of my point. If people want to defend Obama, then defend Obama. But more often than not people start out to defend him and it turns into a Bush bash. It almost feels like people are saying, "Well, at least he looks good when comparing him to Bush." Is that all you got? I think it actually cheapens him (Obama).

I never said he looked good compared to Bush. I did say I'll give him the same chance as I gave Bush though. If he runs again after his 4 are up, will I vote for him? That I don't know yet. I'll need to look back on the previous and see what was done.

The question is not 'can Obama undo the damage of the previous 8 years' but instead can he reverse the damage of the first 8 months of his own Presidency?
I think he's got more than enough on his plate trying to reverse the damage from the last regime in office.

I think Bush was a great President who made some mistakes and no amount of brainwashed liberal rhetoric is going to prove otherwise as far as I'm concerned. Of course, the economy failed on his watch, however (like 9/11), for those of us who have been paying attention, this economic crash was brewing long before Bush Jr. was elected.
Bush chose to ignore the 9/11 warnings. That is completely indefensible. That alone is enough for me to gladly label him a moron. How you could defend him on that I'd love to hear.

It's funny that you criticize me for name-calling, yet continually defend and support this old lady's insults of President Bush. Hmm, hypocritical much?The thing is, Bush did do stupid and illegal things which I think have earned him those titles. I like to mimic you when I call names, I figure if it's good enough for you to do it, it should be good enough for me. I hate to stoop to that level, but sometimes can't resist.

Bush was dishonest, and did idiotic things. I don't think it counts as name calling if what was said is the truth.



"6) Bush is a moron (in case you skipped over the part where she called him an idiot)
Again, I tend to agree. I've got to hand it to him though, he is a rich moron who moved up the ladder with his silver spoon in his mouth."

lol. kinda like Obama's rise up the ladder with affirmative action and being a "community organizer" (aka, racial divider). Damn, trying to do better for your community is such a horrible thing. That bastage!

Any insults you have for Bush will be null and void when the smoke clears because even the experts have said that in 10 years, a look back on his admin will show that he did pretty well with what Clinton left him to work with. You cant say anything about Obama not having anything to work with because he didnt want anything. He has a model that he is following perfectly, its called "Nazi Germany".
Wow, so where do you think the death camps will be located? The sad thing is that the republican party didn't/wouldn't put up a team that was worth voting for. Obama really was the lesser of two evils as much as I hate to say.

Dude, how do you come in here and just open fire on Nate? Alot of hate? Rude and obnoxious? He commented on a blog by someone who isnt even on this forum and the only person to be bothered was you, and thats fine. We can all feel how we want, but he didnt say anything to you. If him saying that she was an idiot makes him rude and obnoxious, then what does that make you?
Nate's done a lot of name calling to me in the past, and tends to make sweeping generalizations is other areas where I and my beliefs are lumped in. I now like to respond in kind. It sucks, but if it's good for the goose.....I will try to rise above that in the future.
"I figured the idiots wouldn't get it. Seems I hit that one out of the ballpark."

Is it because she isnt here to defend herself? Well you bashed Bush up pretty good and I dont see him around.

If people want to disagree, Great! Why does it have to be so hostile though? cant we just disagree and debate without the insults toward each other?
I'd love to debate without insults. While the blog I posted did call Bush an idiot, Nate was the one to throw out the hostility first in the thread.

Wow, this lady is kind of an idiot. Typical Brainwashed-Liberal stupidity.

While he doesn't call me stupid, he infers that I am a stupid brain-washed liberal. The funny thing is that there was only one small paragraph about Bush, but that is what is commented on the most. Nothing about Palin bailing, Limbaugh's drug addiction, or the venom he spews.

I apologize for lowering my standards in my replies, I will try to keep that from happening again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

If the above is what liberalism is, what do you find wrong with it?

Buzzard
08-13-2009, 07:15 PM
IT would be awesome if Bush where here. I would love to meet him. Matt should write him a letter and make him get on here :tongue0011:

It would be interesting to actually meet the man. As a person I just might like him. I didn't like what Bush became as a president though.



*meant to address this in my long reply.

bradwright
08-15-2009, 03:34 PM
so this is where the action is at these days....alrighty then.:ninja:

it seems to me a lot of peoples views on things around here are fueled by hate and not by reason like they should be,
(and yes i have been guilty of this as well in the past)
having said that i will admit that i thought Obama being elected president was a great thing not only for the USA but for the rest of the world as well...now i'm not so sure,
as far as Rush go's though some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is closer to fiction than reality but it seems not everybody notices that,

but until the hate on both sides can be removed from the equation and replaced with the willingness to listen to other peoples points of view and debate them with some sort of reason I think the world will just continue with its slip into the abyss....that's just my opinion though.

NateR
08-15-2009, 06:02 PM
so this is where the action is at these days....alrighty then.:ninja:

it seems to me a lot of peoples views on things around here are fueled by hate and not by reason like they should be,
(and yes i have been guilty of this as well in the past)
having said that i will admit that i thought Obama being elected president was a great thing not only for the USA but for the rest of the world as well...now i'm not so sure,
as far as Rush go's though some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is closer to fiction than reality but it seems not everybody notices that,

but until the hate on both sides can be removed from the equation and replaced with the willingness to listen to other peoples points of view and debate them with some sort of reason I think the world will just continue with its slip into the abyss....that's just my opinion though.

Actually, most of the anger in America today has nothing to do with hate. It's fueled by an out of control government that has stopped listening to the people of America. Obama is driving us towards a cliff and the more people protest the faster he goes. We are seeing the frustrations of a free people who are watching their freedoms eroded by a tyrannical government.

We sincerely care about this country and believe that Obama is causing massive and irreversible damage to America. There's nothing un-American about voicing that opinion.

Buzzard
08-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Actually, most of the anger in America today has nothing to do with hate. It's fueled by an out of control government that has stopped listening to the people of America. Obama is driving us towards a cliff and the more people protest the faster he goes. We are seeing the frustrations of a free people who are watching their freedoms eroded by a tyrannical government.

I hate to say it again, but where was all the conservative republican outrage when Bush was in office? Bush was responsible for many freedoms lost.

We sincerely care about this country and believe that Obama is causing massive and irreversible damage to America. There's nothing un-American about voicing that opinion.

Yeah, it's only un-American if you voiced an opinion against the Bush regime.

NateR
08-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Bush was responsible for many freedoms lost.

annnnndddd.... which ones were those again? :unsure-1:

I keep hearing about these freedoms that Bush supposedly trampled all over, but I've seen zero evidence of it.

rearnakedchoke
08-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Actually, most of the anger in America today has nothing to do with hate. It's fueled by an out of control government that has stopped listening to the people of America. Obama is driving us towards a cliff and the more people protest the faster he goes. We are seeing the frustrations of a free people who are watching their freedoms eroded by a tyrannical government.

We sincerely care about this country and believe that Obama is causing massive and irreversible damage to America. There's nothing un-American about voicing that opinion.
Nate, there was plenty of backlash when bush was in power from the american people ... and bush is the one that put the US in the crapper and now that obama is doing things to try and get the country outta the $hit hole, he is being blamed for the damage ... bush was also planning bailouts, but i am sure then you thought it was a great idea ...

NateR
08-15-2009, 07:02 PM
Nate, there was plenty of backlash when bush was in power from the american people ... and bush is the one that put the US in the crapper and now that obama is doing things to try and get the country outta the $hit hole, he is being blamed for the damage ... bush was also planning bailouts, but i am sure then you thought it was a great idea ...

No, I thought the bank bailout last October was a terrible idea. Unfortunately, it happened in the heat of the Presidential election, thus the American outrage over it was overshadowed by the Obamagasm of the mainstream media.

I've stated this many, many, many, many times on this forums, but you continue to act like I somehow supported it then and only oppose it now because Obama is in office. So that shows that you simply don't read my posts and would instead prefer to flaunt your ignorance by boldly proclaiming what you think I believe.

Well, you're wrong and I would ask you to be a little more open-minded and intelligent about these things.

VCURamFan
08-15-2009, 07:52 PM
No, I thought the bank bailout last October was a terrible idea. Unfortunately, it happened in the heat of the Presidential election, thus the American outrage over it was overshadowed by the Obamagasm of the mainstream media.

I've stated this many, many, many, many times on this forums, but you continue to act like I somehow supported it then and only oppose it now because Obama is in office. So that shows that you simply don't read my posts and would instead prefer to flaunt your ignorance by boldly proclaiming what you think I believe.

Well, you're wrong and I would ask you to be a little more open-minded and intelligent about these things.Just to back you up, Nate, when I read the first paragraph of your post, I got confued & checked the time-stamp of the post again because I coulda sworn that I had read that post word-for-word about a month ago...

NateR
08-15-2009, 08:33 PM
Just to back you up, Nate, when I read the first paragraph of your post, I got confued & checked the time-stamp of the post again because I coulda sworn that I had read that post word-for-word about a month ago...

Yep, now we just need Dave to chime in about how the bank bailout was necessary to save the world economy from us "greedy Americans." :rolleyes:

VCURamFan
08-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Yep, now we just need Dave to chime in about how the bank bailout was necessary to save the world economy from us "greedy Americans." :rolleyes:Nate, you've got super cool admin powers: can't you just copy/paste the whole argument for us so no one has to waste their time re-typing everything?:laugh:

rearnakedchoke
08-16-2009, 04:28 AM
No, I thought the bank bailout last October was a terrible idea. Unfortunately, it happened in the heat of the Presidential election, thus the American outrage over it was overshadowed by the Obamagasm of the mainstream media.

I've stated this many, many, many, many times on this forums, but you continue to act like I somehow supported it then and only oppose it now because Obama is in office. So that shows that you simply don't read my posts and would instead prefer to flaunt your ignorance by boldly proclaiming what you think I believe.

Well, you're wrong and I would ask you to be a little more open-minded and intelligent about these things.
right and how many things have you criticized bush on??? nothing, cuz although you may think it was a bad idea, you would've somehow convinced yourself that it was a good move ... or not said a word about it ... you just hate the fact that obama is pres and will convince yourself that he is killing america

Buzzard
08-16-2009, 07:02 AM
annnnndddd.... which ones were those again? :unsure-1:

I keep hearing about these freedoms that Bush supposedly trampled all over, but I've seen zero evidence of it.

I actually gave you evidence of that in a prior post a few months ago.

Crisco
08-19-2009, 09:38 PM
right and how many things have you criticized bush on??? nothing, cuz although you may think it was a bad idea, you would've somehow convinced yourself that it was a good move ... or not said a word about it ... you just hate the fact that obama is pres and will convince yourself that he is killing america

Nate has actually been pretty critical of Bush in the past...

It just may have gone unnoticed because he didn't just type

"Bush is an Idiot who put this country in the crapper"

I'd like to know exactly what Bush did that everyone thinks he put the country into ruin? Do we blame the economy on him and stuff? Why? What could he have done differently to prevent it?

Rev
08-19-2009, 11:01 PM
A community organizer is a nice word for someone who goes into community that is comprised of mostly minority races, and gets them to join together in complaining about the local government and blaming others for the tough situations they live in. This is what i have been told by a good friend of mine from Philly. (A Black guy)

Buzzard
08-20-2009, 02:00 AM
Nate has actually been pretty critical of Bush in the past...

It just may have gone unnoticed because he didn't just type

"Bush is an Idiot who put this country in the crapper"

I'd like to know exactly what Bush did that everyone thinks he put the country into ruin? Do we blame the economy on him and stuff? Why? What could he have done differently to prevent it?

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712

I could give you many more links to articles describing the things which Bush did or didn't do, but don't want to be accused of bias. Granted, these 3 are articles/opinion pieces. If you wish to further read on these topics, feel free to do some digging.

To reiterate, I liked Bush in the beginning. That fell by the wayside and I ended up almost hating Bush the President.