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KENTUCKYREDBONE
07-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Stop Knife Ban Now!Monday, July 6, 2009 2:09 PM
From: "CCRKBA


Stop Knife Ban Now!
Write your Senators NOW to STOP funding for Customs' Pocket Knife Grab. As you are aware from our earlier alert, Customs is proposing to prohibit the import of assisted and one-hand opening pocket knives and in the process has so broadly re-defined what a Switchblade is under the Federal Switchblade Act, that it could cover almost all pocket knives, with potential far-reaching consequences to every knife owner.

Our best bet to stop Customs in the short term is for Congress to prevent them from spending a dime to implement their proposed ruling. The Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Bill will be taken up by the Senate early this week. We need your help NOW to rally support for an amendment to stop funding for this Customs rulemaking.

We only have a very few days to get their attention Contacting Senator Patty Murray [D-WA] and Senator George Voinovich [R-OH] is particularly important because they are ranking members on the Senate Appropriations Committee's Subcommittee on Homeland Security. Contacting your own Senators is also critically important because we'll need their support as well to see this passed.

You will find more information, email addresses and links for the Senators and sample letters to send to the Senators on our partner Knife Rights' web site at: www.kniferights.org or http://bit.ly/DlHfv

Please pass this Action Alert to everyone you know and urge them to ACT NOW! We need to generate thousands of emails in the next few days. Help save our Knife Rights; STOP this ridiculous and illegitimate rulemaking by Customs. WRITE TODAY!




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rockdawg21
07-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Ha! I live in Texas, they'll never enforce that law here!

Tyburn
07-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Customs??

as in Customs and Excise??

doesnt that just mean they would ban tourists from bringing in Knives through Airports?? Who in this day and age would bring a Knife through an airport and think the Customs Officers wouldnt have a problem :blink: :huh:

rockdawg21
07-07-2009, 08:46 PM
Customs??

as in Customs and Excise??

doesnt that just mean they would ban tourists from bringing in Knives through Airports?? Who in this day and age would bring a Knife through an airport and think the Customs Officers wouldnt have a problem :blink: :huh:
Here are the guidelines as emphasized by the Transportation Security Administration:

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm

According to this, you can use plastic, or round-bladed butter knifes. What if the plastic is sharp? No doubt it can be just as deadly as a small switch-blade.

Seriously, look at 2 of the "yes" items:
- Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length)
- Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length)

In particular, you could easily kill a person with a screw driver.

I noticed this stuff the other day but didn't post anything on here about it until now.

Tyburn
07-07-2009, 09:03 PM
Here are the guidelines as emphasized by the Transportation Security Administration:

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm

According to this, you can use plastic, or round-bladed butter knifes. What if the plastic is sharp? No doubt it can be just as deadly as a small switch-blade.

Seriously, look at 2 of the "yes" items:
- Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length)
- Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length)

In particular, you could easily kill a person with a screw driver.

I noticed this stuff the other day but didn't post anything on here about it until now.
:blink: its all a little bizzare if you ask me. I can understand customs having problems with firearms...but like you said...any sharp...or elongated instrument with an edge could be used like a knife...yes even a plastic one.

:frantics: I think you're rights...this is just curious. :unsure:

IMHO outside of a lighter...all those things for carry on...ALL of them...should be NO

Crisco
07-07-2009, 09:11 PM
:blink: its all a little bizzare if you ask me. I can understand customs having problems with firearms...but like you said...any sharp...or elongated instrument with an edge could be used like a knife...yes even a plastic one.

:frantics: I think you're rights...this is just curious. :unsure:

IMHO outside of a lighter...all those things for carry on...ALL of them...should be NO

Lighters should be banned also IMO

Play The Man
07-08-2009, 12:26 AM
I don't think they are concerned about what people bring in on airplanes. They are concerned about bans on the importation of knives. I think they are concerned that if a precedent is set in this government agency it will become policy in other areas of the government. If the definition of a switchblade is changed to this proposed definition then essentially all pocketknives except slipjoints would be outlawed. Emerson knives with the wave feature would be illegal, Spyderco knives with a thumb opening would be illegal as would knives with thumbstuds, such as Benchmades. Practically all of my knives would be illegal. :angry: I think this is a case of the old Arabian proverb: "If the camel once gets his nose in the tent, his body is sure to follow."

Tyburn
07-08-2009, 12:34 AM
I don't think they are concerned about what people bring in on airplanes. They are concerned about bans on the importation of knives. I think they are concerned that if a precedent is set in this government agency it will become policy in other areas of the government. If the definition of a switchblade is changed to this proposed definition then essentially all pocketknives except slipjoints would be outlawed. Emerson knives with the wave feature would be illegal, Spyderco knives with a thumb opening would be illegal as would knives with thumbstuds, such as Benchmades. Practically all of my knives would be illegal. :angry: I think this is a case of the old Arabian proverb: "If the camel once gets his nose in the tent, his body is sure to follow."
But why would they ban the importation of Knives???

I mean...what would you cut your steak with????

How would your Electronics Industry function???

You cant ban something that has practical use...not on an import/export level...you can limit who they end up being given to...but your only going to lose money if you dont import what you need!

What next? Ban imports of Spoons :huh: :blink: :laugh:

I collect Knives btw...not allowed to carry...but I am allowed to amass them in my home :w00t:

Tyburn
07-08-2009, 12:36 AM
Lighters should be banned also IMO
well now there is a smoking ban on all public transport...then I guess your right...not to mention...verrrrra unwise to bring something that might react poorly under a pressure change...:unsure:

Play The Man
07-08-2009, 12:41 AM
But why would they ban the importation of Knives???

I mean...what would you cut your steak with????

How would your Electronics Industry function???

You cant ban something that has practical use...not on an import/export level...you can limit who they end up being given to...but your only going to lose money if you dont import what you need!

What next? Ban imports of Spoons :huh: :blink: :laugh:

I collect Knives btw...not allowed to carry...but I am allowed to amass them in my home :w00t:

They are trying to reclassify all knives that can be opened with one hand as a switchblade or something akin to a switchblade. Switchblades are illegal in most of the U.S. They are worried that it will be a "backdoor" way to make almost all pocketknives illegal. The only pocketknives that wouldn't be classified as switchblades would be a slipjoint or a lockblade, where you need two hands to open the blade with the fingernail of your thumb.

atomdanger
07-08-2009, 02:35 AM
Ha! I live in Texas, they'll never enforce that law here!

I doubt it will be something they "enforce",
more likely something they will get you for if you get arrested and happen to have a knife,
or pulled over, etc...

They probably won't go looking for pocket knives,
but start passing out fines when they come across them.
Sad.... sad day

KENTUCKYREDBONE
07-08-2009, 08:14 AM
My pocket knife goes with me pretty much every time I step out the door! It has so many uses a man should not be without one!

Tyburn
07-08-2009, 12:50 PM
I doubt it will be something they "enforce",
more likely something they will get you for if you get arrested and happen to have a knife,
or pulled over, etc...

They probably won't go looking for pocket knives,
but start passing out fines when they come across them.
Sad.... sad day
:laugh: probably has more to do with a little extra income for them...I bet your right.

it means for every arrest, they might be able to add a small fine and get more dosh...Expect them to errect more speed cameras if this is true...the more cameras the more likelyhood of catching a speeder, that little bit more money...charges for public parking, pay and display will probably go up aswell.

dont forget...your government is in the middle of a recession aswell.

just carry as usual but dont get caught...if you dont do something stupid, like get it out infront of an officer...or break the law whilst having it on your person...you've nowt to worry about :)

Play The Man
07-10-2009, 12:12 AM
I collect Knives btw...not allowed to carry...but I am allowed to amass them in my home :w00t:

What do you have in your collection? You said you were having a "carboot" sale. Any knives up for sale or is that illegal? I have a small collection - probably 15-20 knives. I always have my eyes open for a nice knife.

Tyburn
07-10-2009, 12:21 AM
What do you have in your collection? You said you were having a "carboot" sale. Any knives up for sale or is that illegal? I have a small collection - probably 15-20 knives. I always have my eyes open for a nice knife.
I have a few knives...but I'm not selling them :laugh:

I'm selling lots of DVDs, CDs, VHS....and a load of books my parents dont want. I'm selling a few items of...specialist....attire, a few pots and pans and cups and lamps and shyte like that. I'm trying to sell A large Tape taking Cam-corder, a digital photo frame, and a Mirror that doesnt belong to me.

I shall be selling my haunted Touch sensative lamp...cant wait to be rid of the thing. Its been sitting on top of my kitchen cupboards where I cant see it for just over four years now....damn thing had a nasty habit of turning itself on...it kept doing it at the same time each day...I got a Priest in to bless the house and I've never used the lamp since....yeah I know it kept switching itself on because of power fluctuations on the national grid...but...I used to come home and find the red light on...at first I thought I'd left it on.

So I used to unplug it. The last time, I'd just come home from my parents...I was absolutely certain I had unpluged that light...and I saw it switched on from the road. I'd only been in the house about a month and it freaked me out...I went back to my Father and told him I wasnt going home until he conducted some sort of ceremony on the property :laugh:

I can laugh now...but it wasnt funny at the time :mellow: