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Tyburn
06-15-2009, 09:59 PM
During the Second World War, Twenty Eight Thousand American Service People were killed by the Germans whilst stationed on English Soil after the United States joined the War.

Of the Two bombs that struck Saint Paul's Cathedral during the three year Blitzekrieg campaign, one demolished the High Altar and East End of the Building. When the Building was restored it was decided that behind the High Altar a Chapel be installed to commemorate the Americans who died.

Within that Chapel lies a gigantic book under glass, a page of which is turned everyday. Within those pages lie the names and ranks of the Officers who were killed, a total of Twenty Eight Thousand.

Every Year Saint Paul's Cathedral opens its door across Thanksgiving to Celebrate and Give Thanks for the participation of America in that conflict, with a Special Service for the American Community in London.

This year there has been a special focus as it marks the 5oth Year of the American Memorial Chapel, as such a fund raising Gala in New York organised by Saint Paul's Cathedral and supported by the local inhabitants, featuring speakers such as The Dean, and the Daughter of Sir Winston Churchill, raised 30K USD

Just thought you guys might want to know that.

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Crisco
06-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Your Welcome Britain =P

Miss Foxy
06-17-2009, 09:13 PM
I did not know the numbers of servicemen that died was so high...:sad:

Tyburn
06-18-2009, 12:10 AM
I did not know the numbers of servicemen that died was so high...:sad:
please note...that is not the complete death toll.

That Number is the number of Americans killed whilst based on English Soil. It does not include any of the Americans lost at Sea in the South Pacific, or Atlantic unless they left from a specifically English Port. It doesnt include the number of any Americans stationed elsewhere who died during the conflict. Also...a bone of contention for many...it doesnt include the names of those who died, if they HAD been stationed in England but were NOT at the time of their deaths

28000 is therefore probably doesnt even equal half the number of American fatalities in the Second World War. :unsure-1:

NateR
06-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Over 418,000 Americans lost their lives as a result of WW2. The USSR suffered the most casualties in the war with over 10 million military deaths and over 11 millions civilians killed, in addition to 1 million Russians killed in the Jewish Holocaust. Germany lost 5.5 million soldiers and 1.5 million civilians. China suffered the most civilian deaths at over 16 million, with an additional 3.8 million soldiers killed.

Even with the atomic bombs factored in, Japan only lost 580,000 civilians in the war and just over 2 million soldiers.

In total, it's estimated that over 73 million people lost their lives in the second World War. Although I've heard that estimate go as high as 1 billion people.

Miss Foxy
06-18-2009, 03:26 AM
Over 418,000 Americans lost their lives as a result of WW2. The USSR suffered the most casualties in the war with over 10 million military deaths and over 11 millions civilians killed, in addition to 1 million Russians killed in the Jewish Holocaust. Germany lost 5.5 million soldiers and 1.5 million civilians. China suffered the most civilian deaths at over 16 million, with an additional 3.8 million soldiers killed.

Even with the atomic bombs factored in, Japan only lost 580,000 civilians in the war and just over 2 million soldiers.

In total, it's estimated that over 73 million people lost their lives in the second World War. Although I've heard that estimate go as high as 1 billion people.
I must have been putting my makeup on in History class..:blink:

Tyburn
06-18-2009, 11:15 AM
I must have been putting my makeup on in History class..:blink:
:unsure-1: its an alarming figure :sad:

NateR
06-18-2009, 04:57 PM
If you compare the wars, then it kind of puts our current military conflicts in perspective.

Revolutionary War (1775-1783): ~25,000 killed

The Civil War (1861-1865):
Union Deaths: 364,511
Confederate Deaths: ~260,000
Total: 624,511 military deaths

World War 1 (1917-1918): 116,516 killed

World War 2 (1941-1945): 416,800 military deaths, 1,700 civilian deaths

Korean War (1950-1953): 36,516 killed

Vietnam War (1957-1973): 58,209 killed

Gulf War (1990-1991): 299 killed

Afghanistan (2001-present): 677 killed

Iraq War (2003-present): 4,300 killed

Interesting that we lost more civilians on 9/11 (2,974 killed) than we did in the entire 4 years of WW2. However, our military dead from WW2 are almost 100 times more than what we've lost in Iraq so far. Yet, WW2 is considered a victory and Iraq is considered (by some) a failure. :blink:

rockdawg21
06-18-2009, 05:02 PM
We killed Saddam and his sons. Whether Americans, Iraqis, or anybody else wants to deny it, Iraq and it's civilians are far better off.

NateR
06-18-2009, 06:28 PM
There have also been around 100,000 civilian deaths in Iraq as a result of the Iraq War. That sounds bad until you compare it to the 600,000 civilians who were killed while Saddam Hussein was in power.

Tyburn
06-18-2009, 06:41 PM
The Civil War (1861-1865):
Union Deaths: 364,511
Confederate Deaths: ~260,000

However, our military dead from WW2 are almost 100 times more than what we've lost in Iraq so far. Yet, WW2 is considered a victory and Iraq is considered (by some) a failure. :blink:

Using that Logic, The South Won the Civil War :laugh:

Its not all about the numbers.

btw...explain about the Civilian Casualties in World War Two please...were they all from Pearl :blink: :huh:

NateR
06-18-2009, 07:27 PM
Using that Logic, The South Won the Civil War :laugh:

Its not all about the numbers.

btw...explain about the Civilian Casualties in World War Two please...were they all from Pearl :blink: :huh:

There were some civilians killed in Pearl Harbor, but I think most of the casualties came from civilian workers in Europe. Maybe some from espionage and sabotage on US soil as well.