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TheConcretekid
01-30-2009, 12:50 PM
So MMALogic claims that Affliction's next show is going to be there last.

Michael Rome states that a source at UFC informed him that Lorenzo was contacted by Affliction and that they were looking for a "beneficial" way out.

Atencio now denies these claims and said the next will be in three or four months from now. This show will almost certainly be Fedor Barnett.

I'm hoping this wil be there last show, and then the EliteXC guys get released, and Zuffa can pick up some Japanese fighters, and then we can have then best fighters in the world actually be able to fight each other!

Llamafighter
01-30-2009, 12:54 PM
So MMALogic claims that Affliction's next show is going to be there last.

Michael Rome states that a source at UFC informed him that Lorenzo was contacted by Affliction and that they were looking for a "beneficial" way out.

Atencio now denies these claims and said the next will be in three or four months from now. This show will almost certainly be Fedor Barnett.

I'm hoping this wil be there last show, and then the EliteXC guys get released, and Zuffa can pick up some Japanese fighters, and then we can have then best fighters in the world actually be able to fight each other!

My fear is that if Affliction closes shop we'll never see Fedor fight on U.S. soil (or worthy competition)again.

hizo64
01-30-2009, 03:54 PM
My fear is that if Affliction closes shop we'll never see Fedor fight on U.S. soil (or worthy competition)again.

:scared0011: man I wish Dana wasn't such an ego maniac!

MattHughesRocks
01-30-2009, 05:20 PM
I don't get why they don't just scale it down a bit.Don't put it in such big venues ( did you notice all the empty seats) and don't charge as much for the tix.Maybe even lower the price of the PPV just a little. I think all those things would make the generate more money. When you go charging more then the UFC for a freakin' tshirt bad things are bound to happen.

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 06:53 PM
:scared0011: man I wish Dana wasn't such an ego maniac!


Why does wanting to stay the "600lb gorilla" such a bad thing?

It's not a UFC issue, it's an Affiliction issue.

Bas and Kenny in Inside MMA (which is a fun show more than an industry show), always say the same thing..

Stop trying to start out as the UFC.. Start small and then build.. Worst case.. you end up like WEC... and they aren't doing bad now.. even better since Zuffa bought them.

MattHughesRocks
01-30-2009, 07:03 PM
The UFC wasnt the UFC over night. You can't go from selling tshirts to the UFC over night either :laugh:

Preach
01-30-2009, 07:14 PM
WAR UFC over night UFC in just a night UFC that is actually Affliction over night

MattHughesRocks
01-30-2009, 07:18 PM
:blink: Go back to bed.
Penn is going to get hi sass kicked by the way sweetheart :biggrin-1:


WAR UFC over night UFC in just a night UFC that is actually Affliction over night

Preach
01-30-2009, 07:22 PM
:blink: Go back to bed.
Penn is going to get hi sass kicked by the way sweetheart :biggrin-1:


Your the one dreaming there California Sunshine

hizo64
01-30-2009, 07:24 PM
Why does wanting to stay the "600lb gorilla" such a bad thing?

It's not a UFC issue, it's an Affiliction issue.

Bas and Kenny in Inside MMA (which is a fun show more than an industry show), always say the same thing..

Stop trying to start out as the UFC.. Start small and then build.. Worst case.. you end up like WEC... and they aren't doing bad now.. even better since Zuffa bought them.

Im not talking about building a business, I know he busted his arse over a long time time to build to what it is today. i just wish Dana would get a little flexible and bring fedor to the UFC. That way we could have super fights like Couture vs Fedor, and fights like that.

MattHughesRocks
01-30-2009, 07:30 PM
No no no no sweetheart.You should change that sig of yours now.It'll save the embarrassment later.
Here,you can even have this

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e292/skysrock/GSP/ilovegsp.jpg


Your the one dreaming there California Sunshine

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 07:39 PM
Im not talking about building a business, I know he busted his arse over a long time time to build to what it is today. i just wish Dana would get a little flexible and bring fedor to the UFC. That way we could have super fights like Couture vs Fedor, and fights like that.


While I agree with you.. they have to protect their title..

You can have a title fight and then have your title holder go and fight for the competition...

Now if AA had won.. it would be easier to have Fedor/Randy...

no titles on the line and such.. 1 fight deals...

hizo64
01-30-2009, 07:48 PM
Ya youre right, the UFC WOULD have to protect their HW title from being taken by our beloved russian fighter :cool:

timmyja
01-30-2009, 07:58 PM
If Affliction hadn't paid Arlovski 1500000, and Tim Sylvia (750000?not sure of the figure but it was a BIG one,) then they would have generated an extra 2.25 million dollars to make up for the empty seats.

hizo64
01-30-2009, 08:09 PM
[QUOTE=timmyja]If Affliction hadn't paid Arlovski 1500000, and Tim Sylvia (750000?not sure of the figure but it was a BIG one,) then they would have generated an extra 2.25 million dollars to make up for the empty seats.[/QUOTE

I know that was pretty ridiculous!

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 08:16 PM
yeah.. I am still not sure those are correct...

and Fedors rate??? peanuts compared.. I would like to see those "locker room" bonuses.....

FoTN.. 3mil bonus..

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 08:17 PM
Ya youre right, the UFC WOULD have to protect their HW title from being taken by our beloved russian fighter :cool:


He isn't beloved by me.. I almost cried when Arlovski got stupid.. He was really taking it to Fedor..

Preach
01-30-2009, 08:48 PM
No no no no sweetheart.You should change that sig of yours now.It'll save the embarrassment later.
Here,you can even have this

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e292/skysrock/GSP/ilovegsp.jpg


It's on like Donkey Kong

Llamafighter
01-30-2009, 08:57 PM
He isn't beloved by me.. I almost cried when Arlovski got stupid.. He was really taking it to Fedor..

It was jsut a matter of time. Fedor had already taking notice of AA dropping his left.
Fighters like Anderson and Fedor usually take a little while to figure out their opponent before they let them have it.
The reason AA looked so good is because he was aggressive and had some great accuracy and handspeed.

Tyburn
01-30-2009, 09:00 PM
I don't get why they don't just scale it down a bit.Don't put it in such big venues ( did you notice all the empty seats) and don't charge as much for the tix.Maybe even lower the price of the PPV just a little. I think all those things would make the generate more money. When you go charging more then the UFC for a freakin' tshirt bad things are bound to happen.
Your absolutely right.

Plus.,..dont pay your main events stupid sums of money :rolleyes:

Preach
01-30-2009, 09:05 PM
Does this Scare you?http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/coadchevy/gsp.gif

GSP worries me








Or does this Scare you
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/coadchevy/penn_stephensongfi4.gif

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 09:06 PM
Well.. anyone who has the nerve to lick and tweak their own nipples and is NOT in porn.. yeah.. kinda scary.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/coadchevy/gsp.gif

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 09:07 PM
Or does this Scare you
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/coadchevy/penn_stephensongfi4.gif


As much as I like Joe Daddy... he isn't in Baby Jays class..

Preach
01-30-2009, 09:08 PM
:laugh: Well.. anyone who has the nerve to lick and tweak their own nipples and is NOT in porn.. yeah.. kinda scary.

Spiritwalker
01-30-2009, 09:09 PM
Your absolutely right.

Plus.,..dont pay your main events stupid sums of money :rolleyes:

Not knocking you Tyburn....

but it's kinda funny.. we all agree that fighters should be paid more.. but we are all in shock when they get LARGE bucks...

So maybe the UFC is right?

CAVEMAN
01-30-2009, 10:23 PM
Paying AA 1.5 million for 1 fight is not smart business!

hizo64
01-30-2009, 10:26 PM
It was jsut a matter of time. Fedor had already taking notice of AA dropping his left.
Fighters like Anderson and Fedor usually take a little while to figure out their opponent before they let them have it.
The reason AA looked so good is because he was aggressive and had some great accuracy and handspeed.

Ya people are making a big deal as though Fedor was getting whooped but I honestly never was worried. I didnt see him getting in trouble, I mean come on people, it was only three minutes, don't over analyze three minutes!!

Preach
01-30-2009, 11:10 PM
Ya people are making a big deal as though Fedor was getting whooped but I honestly never was worried. I didnt see him getting in trouble, I mean come on people, it was only three minutes, don't over analyze three minutes!!

He never was in trouble you are correct in that assumption

hizo64
01-30-2009, 11:43 PM
He never was in trouble you are correct in that assumption

Now when Fujita rocked him, well that was a different story cause HE WAS in trouble!

Preach
01-30-2009, 11:45 PM
He has been in trouble before but has showed determination and heart.

Tyburn
01-30-2009, 11:47 PM
Not knocking you Tyburn....

but it's kinda funny.. we all agree that fighters should be paid more.. but we are all in shock when they get LARGE bucks...

So maybe the UFC is right?
There two extremes.

Affliction is intollerable because whats worse then paying none of your fighters what they deserve?

Paying ONE fighter a lottery win, and the rest peanuts!!!

Thats far worse then the UFC, whose lower bands of pay are WAY too low...but atleast most people are payed on a scale and all you need to do is raise the scale across the board. :)

warriorlion
01-31-2009, 08:42 AM
He has been in trouble before but has showed determination and heart.

AA has what it takes to beat him, that was obvious from the 3 mins, yeah fedor was not on trouble i agree, but till arlovski got stupid fedor had no answer for AA hand speed and accuracy. he struggled to get AA down in the clinch and he looked worried after that clinch. like he had underestimated AA.

your right that fedor has been in trouble, but this win was a classic punchers chance victory. If AA had not got stupid, i think you would have been looking at the same story all the way, fedors looping punches not being fast enough with AA firing shots right down the middle.

we can speculate all year, bottom line AA got caught with a looping over hand and to sleep he went. still not convinced on fedors supremacy, but agree right now he is top hw. but he showed a big weakness. if i was training to fight fedor i would be looking at throwing down the middle hard and fast and make sure i could stol him from throwing me matt lindland style.

maxumII
01-31-2009, 01:58 PM
Im not talking about building a business, I know he busted his arse over a long time time to build to what it is today. i just wish Dana would get a little flexible and bring fedor to the UFC. That way we could have super fights like Couture vs Fedor, and fights like that.

Fedor would kill Randy. That was a dumb idea from the start.

Spiritwalker
01-31-2009, 03:55 PM
Fedor would kill Randy. That was a dumb idea from the start.


Randy is the MASTER at tactics.. Would Fedor beat Randy?? Probably.. Maybe... But Randy would make him work for it... work hard.

EHLERZ5
01-31-2009, 04:17 PM
If all these Non-UFC Organizations close up shop.... Where will all these fighters end up? The UFC Roster seems sooooooooo full of people already that their lucky if they even get on 2 PPV's per year right now.

If the UFC ends up aquiring a ton more of these guys, what are they going to do to keep everybody active and fighting???

maxumII
01-31-2009, 05:01 PM
I think they ought to have twice as many PPVs but the cut the price in half or more.

cheachea
01-31-2009, 08:40 PM
I just wish Fedor would finally fight in the UFC or that we could just have a united fighting organization.

atomdanger
01-31-2009, 09:44 PM
My fear is that if Affliction closes shop we'll never see Fedor fight on U.S. soil (or worthy competition)again.

Who is a worthy opponent now? lol

Some say barnett, I disagree. But ok, after the Barnett win.

Then what? People don't really think Mir or Brock stand a chance do they?
what ? GG? Kongo? Come on....

Fedor is the best HW in the world, and there is a big gap between first and second IMO

Llamafighter
01-31-2009, 10:22 PM
Who is a worthy opponent now? lol

Some say barnett, I disagree. But ok, after the Barnett win.

Then what? People don't really think Mir or Brock stand a chance do they?
what ? GG? Kongo? Come on....

Fedor is the best HW in the world, and there is a big gap between first and second IMO

True that!

Jason 16
01-31-2009, 11:58 PM
True that!
agree

KENTUCKYREDBONE
02-04-2009, 02:18 AM
I prefer multiple Legit org to compete with each other! I don't want everything to be owned by the UFC or any other single group!