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Tyburn
04-22-2009, 06:12 PM
:ninja: So North America has a Union aswell...how absolutely Fascinating!

Anyone care to comment?

I mean you guys seems to dislike Old Europe (Now the European Union) You disregard the United Nations (A group of representatives from the whole world) yet you are IN your own little Union....The United States of America, The Soverign Commonwealth State of Canada, Third World Mexico...and several others...and Latin America

hahahaha...your very own North Atlantic Treaty Organization...of which President Bush STOLE a line from its Charter when he founded the Coillition of States against Terrorism...He said that an attack on one is an attack on all....and the Chater reads

" An act of aggression against one American State is an act of aggression against all the other American States"

Really??? So...if Mexico was attacked...the United States would defend her out of Loyalty to America (As a Continent)

lets not even go into the fact half the Latin American States are in it. Venezuela anyone :unsure:


:ninja:

Miss Foxy
04-22-2009, 06:14 PM
What are you trying to do Dave honestly? Are you trying to debate or attack America with your sarcasm?:unsure-1:

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 06:18 PM
What are you trying to do Dave honestly? Are you trying to debate or attack America with your sarcasm?:unsure-1:
I want to know what people think about the Organization of American States.

I want to know whether people think of it like they do the EU and UN...just another council the US is forced into...or whether they think its good.

Noone has EVER mentioned it on this forum...infact...I only heard of it from a Canadian who asked me if I realized there was an Organization for The American Continent, which is like a cross between The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and The European Union.

VCURamFan
04-22-2009, 06:19 PM
What are you trying to do Dave honestly? Are you trying to debate or attack America with your sarcasm?:unsure-1:I'd guess the latter.

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 06:20 PM
I'd guess the latter.
have you ever heard of this union before :huh: do you approve of it :huh:

VCURamFan
04-22-2009, 06:23 PM
have you ever heard of this union before :huh: do you approve of it :huh:Yes, I've heard of it; no, I don't approve of it.

rearnakedchoke
04-22-2009, 07:16 PM
there is a difference ... the EU was created because as separate entities, most european countries can't fend for themselves so they need to piggy back off each other to be able to compete with the US, Japan, India Brazil and China ... we still have our own currency here in canada, US mexico ...sure you still use GBP but the rest of the saps in that continent use Euros .. what a cop out ...

and since we are neighbors we have good trade relations etc. ... The EU was formed because most of the countries couldn't handle the improvement of the rest of the world ...

NateR
04-22-2009, 07:17 PM
Dave, you're getting very close to America-bashing here.

Simply put, a majority of the United States population does not agree with these unions, coalitions, councils, confederations, etc. that try to partner the United States up with other nations. These are created by government officials outside of the will of the American people.

I have no problem with the US having allies, however, we need to be very careful that we don't hand over our sovereignty for some flawed, human vision of "world peace."

County Mike
04-22-2009, 07:38 PM
Of course we would defend Mexico against outside attack. If we allowed Mexico to be taken, it puts our borders at risk (Military risk - not just an over abundance of landscapers risk).

Miss Foxy
04-22-2009, 07:39 PM
Of course we would defend Mexico against outside attack. If we allowed Mexico to be taken, it puts our borders at risk (Military risk - not just an over abundance of landscapers risk).
Its not just Mexicans that cross.

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 08:59 PM
Of course we would defend Mexico against outside attack. If we allowed Mexico to be taken, it puts our borders at risk (Military risk - not just an over abundance of landscapers risk).
sorry bad example.

Okay...what if the Venezuelian were attacked...would you be forced to defend them also?? they dont have a boarder with you :blink:

I wonder if Argentina is in this pact...coz you know that we have absolutely NO intention of EVER giving them the Faulkland Islands back...not ever :laugh: (and yes they did just ellect some foolish women specifically because she promised her people to try and get the Islands back :angry: )

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 09:03 PM
Dave, you're getting very close to America-bashing here.

Simply put, a majority of the United States population does not agree with these unions, coalitions, councils, confederations, etc. that try to partner the United States up with other nations. These are created by government officials outside of the will of the American people.

I have no problem with the US having allies, however, we need to be very careful that we don't hand over our sovereignty for some flawed, human vision of "world peace."
take a look and judge for yourself as to whether you think it falls under that or not. I dont know if it does. I've litterally only JUST heard of it.

I'm not "america bashing" at all. :mellow: I just had no idea America was in somekinda Union which includes Canada, mexico and Latin American states...and since I know that people here hate the UN and EU...I just wondered what they thought of the OAS

http://www.oas.org/ (take a look at their website and let me know what you think of them :) )

Crisco
04-22-2009, 09:11 PM
The UN is definately a convient tool and if the US is to continue being a super power it needs to exist.

War with China is inevitable at this point. One of our nations has to fall. I can see 10 years of cold war and then China will make the wrong move bringing about WW3.

We have two conflicting ideoligies will their power very quickly catching up to ours.

It's a powder keg waiting for a match to see who will rule the world.

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 09:17 PM
The UN is definately a convient tool and if the US is to continue being a super power it needs to exist.

War with China is inevitable at this point. One of our nations has to fall. I can see 10 years of cold war and then China will make the wrong move bringing about WW3.

We have two conflicting ideoligies will their power very quickly catching up to ours.

It's a powder keg waiting for a match to see who will rule the world.
The laugh of the whole UN debarcle...is that all these Wars are now between friends

England and France (Allied in WW2, but never got on before, and never got on after...BOTH hold a Veto on the Security Council)

United States and Russia (Allied in WW2, but then went to war for dominance with each other, they still hate each other today...BOTH hold a Veto on the Security Council)

United States and China (Allied in WW2, but China is on the increase, with its language being the most spoken in the world, and its population the largest on the planet, its Nuclear, its communist...and sooner or later it will want to rule the world...BOTH hold a Veto on the Security Council)

England and the United States are often Inseperable, Russia and China have sooo much in common

Noone likes the French though :laugh:

Crisco
04-22-2009, 09:23 PM
They French are definately not a world player.

English support will be vital in the event of war with China. England would be a great port for our Aircraft carriers as well as a good line of defense to the east. The west gets more difficult and unfortunately we might see some attacks on us soil.

CAVEMAN
04-22-2009, 09:23 PM
The United Nations is a bad group with a bad idea!

Crisco
04-22-2009, 09:38 PM
The United Nations is a bad group with a bad idea!

How can you say world peace is a bad idea?

Sure the ways you get it can be bad but world peace is definately not bad.

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 09:38 PM
They French are definately not a world player.

English support will be vital in the event of war with China. England would be a great port for our Aircraft carriers as well as a good line of defense to the east. The west gets more difficult and unfortunately we might see some attacks on us soil.
No, the French are characteristically known to be difficult.

I dont see you getting attacked from the East. The Middle-east isnt strong enough to launch an attack. Israel is on your side, England is on your side, Europe wouldnt dare, Africa wouldnt care. You would have coverage as far as the eastern block through Europe...so IF India, Pakistan, or Russia decided to make a go at you, they would never get as far as the Atlantic.

Now, Russia would side with China. Russia wouldnt attack you, they would attack Europe and England for defending you. Our War would be with the Russians. Your war would be with China, but it would have to cross the Pacific. Now Hawaii is terribly undefensable... My Guess is that Japan would support the United States...but they are to close to the mainland...my guess is along with much of Oceania, Polynesia and places like Taiwan...Japan et al would be invaded, one Island at a time, just like the Japanese tried during the second world war...but be warned...there are many more Chinese then Japanese.

The rush would be to see who gets to Austrailia first.

Its commonwealth, so it would support England and support you...but the battle would be fought there first. Your problem would come from Latin America. If anyone of those States failed you, you'd risk losing Austrailia to the Chinese...if that happened...you'd be close enough for daily bombardment. Even if that never happened, the Latin States might try and Bombard you themselves...not sure what sorta arsenal any of them have...

It litterally depends on how far China got.

If they got to Austrailia...i'd go Nuclear...because that would be the only way to finish it off. IF Russia were to march through Europe...THEN they would be able to hit your East Coast...but I think they'd need help from inside Europe. Thankfully, most of your main cities lie on the EAST, and Russia is less likely to get to France or Spain, before China gets to Austrailia....if they used Nuclear weapons on the United States...they would probably be aiming for San Fransisco, San Diego, and/or Los Angeles.

If they tried to send one to Washington or New York, they'd be discovered before the bombs made it across the Mid west. They're only chance would be to go for a Western Coastal city and hope that the US blinks when they pull the trigger.

We could make strikes on Moscow on your behalf...and if you let us use Starwars aswell, short of a ground offensive...Russia shouldnt be a problem, to far to fire east, and they cant hit us, or you, so long as Starwars shield holds out.

Invasion my arse as far as England I dont think so.

Miss Foxy
04-22-2009, 10:07 PM
No, the French are characteristically known to be difficult.

I dont see you getting attacked from the East. The Middle-east isnt strong enough to launch an attack. Israel is on your side, England is on your side, Europe wouldnt dare, Africa wouldnt care. You would have coverage as far as the eastern block through Europe...so IF India, Pakistan, or Russia decided to make a go at you, they would never get as far as the Atlantic.

Now, Russia would side with China. Russia wouldnt attack you, they would attack Europe and England for defending you. Our War would be with the Russians. Your war would be with China, but it would have to cross the Pacific. Now Hawaii is terribly undefensable... My Guess is that Japan would support the United States...but they are to close to the mainland...my guess is along with much of Oceania, Polynesia and places like Taiwan...Japan et al would be invaded, one Island at a time, just like the Japanese tried during the second world war...but be warned...there are many more Chinese then Japanese.

The rush would be to see who gets to Austrailia first.

Its commonwealth, so it would support England and support you...but the battle would be fought there first. Your problem would come from Latin America. If anyone of those States failed you, you'd risk losing Austrailia to the Chinese...if that happened...you'd be close enough for daily bombardment. Even if that never happened, the Latin States might try and Bombard you themselves...not sure what sorta arsenal any of them have...

It litterally depends on how far China got.

If they got to Austrailia...i'd go Nuclear...because that would be the only way to finish it off. IF Russia were to march through Europe...THEN they would be able to hit your East Coast...but I think they'd need help from inside Europe. Thankfully, most of your main cities lie on the EAST, and Russia is less likely to get to France or Spain, before China gets to Austrailia....if they used Nuclear weapons on the United States...they would probably be aiming for San Fransisco, San Diego, and/or Los Angeles.

If they tried to send one to Washington or New York, they'd be discovered before the bombs made it across the Mid west. They're only chance would be to go for a Western Coastal city and hope that the US blinks when they pull the trigger.

We could make strikes on Moscow on your behalf...and if you let us use Starwars aswell, short of a ground offensive...Russia shouldnt be a problem, to far to fire east, and they cant hit us, or you, so long as Starwars shield holds out.

Invasion my arse as far as England I dont think so. You have been playing too much Battleship...:Whistle:

Crisco
04-22-2009, 10:08 PM
You have been playing too much Battleship...:Whistle:

Perhaps you have played not enough!

Miss Foxy
04-22-2009, 10:09 PM
Perhaps you have played not enough!
What are you implying?

Crisco
04-22-2009, 10:10 PM
What are you implying?

That you haven't played enough battle ship?

I thought it was pretty straight forward...

rockdawg21
04-22-2009, 10:19 PM
How can you say world peace is a bad idea?

Sure the ways you get it can be bad but world peace is definately not bad.
When the 5 permanent members are the world's largest arms dealers, there's proof they do not want world peace.

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Perhaps you have played not enough!
:laugh:

Tyburn
04-22-2009, 10:24 PM
When the 5 permanent members are the world's largest arms dealers, there's proof they do not want world peace.
dont forget at least three use Torture also :laugh:

The UN isnt about Peace IMHO...its about trying to work together to solve issues rather then go to war...its meant to inhibt warfare, not cause world peace.

J.B.
04-22-2009, 10:28 PM
I have no problem with the US having allies, however, we need to be very careful that we don't hand over our sovereignty for some flawed, human vision of "world peace."

Agreed. Of course we need allies, but we don't need anything in writing.

NateR
04-22-2009, 10:29 PM
How can you say world peace is a bad idea?

Sure the ways you get it can be bad but world peace is definately not bad.

Well, the basic theory is that if all nations are unified under one government, then there would be no need for any more wars since no one would be enemies with anyone else. However, even assuming that's possible with our current leaders, such a government would have to be so large and so powerful that it would, by it's very nature, become the greatest enemy of human life, liberty and happiness in the history of the world.

There's also some indications in Bible prophecy that suggest any move towards world peace is actually taking us one step closer to the Anti-Christ.

Crisco
04-22-2009, 10:33 PM
Well, the basic theory is that if all nations are unified under one government, then there would be no need for any more wars since no one would be enemies with anyone else. However, even assuming that's possible with our current leaders, such a government would have to be so large and so powerful that it would, by it's very nature, become the greatest enemy of human life, liberty and happiness in the history of the world.

There's also some indications in Bible prophecy that suggest any move towards world peace is actually taking us one step closer to the Anti-Christ.

I was more meaning what it is at present. A voting council where countries come to settle their differences without bombs.

Neezar
04-23-2009, 04:34 AM
sorry bad example.

Okay...what if the Venezuelian were attacked...would you be forced to defend them also?? they dont have a boarder with you :blink:

I wonder if Argentina is in this pact...coz you know that we have absolutely NO intention of EVER giving them the Faulkland Islands back...not ever :laugh: (and yes they did just ellect some foolish women specifically because she promised her people to try and get the Islands back :angry: )

Ummm, you will if we tell you to. :)






















.:tongue0011: :laugh:

Tyburn
04-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Ummm, you will if we tell you to. :)






















.:tongue0011: :laugh:

Grenada says we wont actually.

Grenada was Commonwealth and did something to threaten the US, cant remember what, might just have been a communist ellected to lead or something. The American Forces invaded.

Her Majesty gave America such a private bollocking, they dare not trample on English Empire again...not even to deal with trouble makers like Robert Mugabe.

Beware...the wrath of the English :ninja:

Faulklands belongs to us, and it always will do. If the Argentinians want it...let them try and get it...just try it...juuuuust try it :ninja:

:laugh:

rockdawg21
04-23-2009, 02:36 PM
I was more meaning what it is at present. A voting council where countries come to settle their differences without bombs.
Well what's the fun in that? :fighting0008:
Seriously, if we don't drop an atomic bomb on our biggest national threat, Antarctica, by the time I'm dead, I'll die an unhappy man.

Crisco
04-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Well what's the fun in that? :fighting0008:
Seriously, if we don't drop an atomic bomb on our biggest national threat, Antarctica, by the time I'm dead, I'll die an unhappy man.

Hell yea bomb the glaciers before they can melt!

**** you global warming!

rockdawg21
04-23-2009, 03:31 PM
Hell yea bomb the glaciers before they can melt!

**** you global warming!
Well, the liberals think we're the cause of something that occurs naturally, so let's just give them real proof - nuclear winter :laugh:

Tyburn
04-23-2009, 05:30 PM
Well, the liberals think we're the cause of something that occurs naturally, so let's just give them real proof - nuclear winter :laugh:
Dont be pedantic :angry:

:laugh: :laugh:

Nuclear Winter can happen Naturally aswell...you just need enough volcanic activity at the same time... thats no excuse to make it happen

However...China does have a terrible population problem... :unsure:

Hughes_GOAT
04-23-2009, 08:28 PM
However...China does have a terrible population problem... :unsure:

so does India, Africa, etc. the entire planet is growing beyond control. thus, the powers that be, will lessen the population through evil means in the not too distant future.

Tyburn
04-23-2009, 08:47 PM
so does India, Africa, etc. the entire planet is growing beyond control. thus, the powers that be, will lessen the population through evil means in the not too distant future.
Africa isnt too much of a problem, because of natural killers.

India...I dont know much about.

The United States hasnt got a population problem though...

please can you give 1 billion Chinese people a good home :huh: :mellow:

:laugh: :laugh:

Hughes_GOAT
04-23-2009, 08:53 PM
The United States hasnt got a population problem though...



they have an illegal alien/immigration population control. millions actually.

Tyburn
04-23-2009, 08:54 PM
they have an illegal alien/immigration population control. millions actually.
yes...but there land can support BILLIONS

Hughes_GOAT
04-23-2009, 08:57 PM
yes...but there land can support BILLIONS

our jails and financial resources can't. the earth can support billions of people, the problem is in having these billions living together.

Crisco
04-23-2009, 09:23 PM
our jails and financial resources can't. the earth can support billions of people, the problem is in having these billions living together.

Legalize weed.


(I don't smoke it)

Taxes and a reduction of prison costs.

Tyburn
04-23-2009, 10:03 PM
our jails and financial resources can't. the earth can support billions of people, the problem is in having these billions living together.
Your financial system would have to change....you can always build more jails...or

execute faster :laugh:

Dawezilla
06-03-2009, 02:40 AM
Your financial system would have to change....you can always build more jails...or

execute faster :laugh:

Look what I started by talking with Dave on MSN.

The population is growing too fast. It takes 10 lbs of grain to produce 1 lb of meat - saw that statistic somewhere. If the rest of the world consumed as much meat as the US, we would need 4 earths or something like that.

A lot more countries are moving to meat diets slowly. Interesting fact.

NateR
06-03-2009, 03:10 AM
execute faster :laugh:

I think if we had a "life for a life" policy towards murder, then that would solve a lot of problems with overcrowded prisons. If you are found guilty of killing one person (first degree murder - not manslaughter, killing in self defense, etc.), then you get the death penalty. That will clear out a lot of space in our current prison system and, after the thousands and thousands of murderers in prison right now have been executed, it will act as a pretty good deterrent for future crimes. State governments that strictly enforce the death penalty have much lower murder rates.

Also, there should be no age limit on the death penalty. A child who can commit murder at the age of 13, shouldn't even get the opportunity to reach the age of 18.

For instance, the 13 year old New Mexico boy who raped and murdered one of his female classmates, then chopped off her fingers in order to prevent her body from being identified, should be put to death immediately. If he can commit a violent crime like that at 13, what will he be capable of at 18? I say we don't wait around to find out.

Buzzard
06-03-2009, 04:32 AM
State governments that strictly enforce the death penalty have much lower murder rates.




Do you have anything to back up this "fact"?

NateR
06-03-2009, 04:39 AM
Do you have anything to back up this "fact"?

Yep.

MattHughesRocks
06-03-2009, 04:44 AM
:laugh:

I heart NateR

Tyburn
06-03-2009, 12:22 PM
Look what I started by talking with Dave on MSN.

The population is growing too fast. It takes 10 lbs of grain to produce 1 lb of meat - saw that statistic somewhere. If the rest of the world consumed as much meat as the US, we would need 4 earths or something like that.

A lot more countries are moving to meat diets slowly. Interesting fact.
outside the US meat is VERY expensive...dont forget though, the United States has the geography to support wild beasts which can be hunted and eaten :)

Crisco
06-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Anyone who isn't for the death penalty is a sissy.


There I said it. Everyone was thinking it.

Buzzard
06-03-2009, 05:09 PM
Anyone who isn't for the death penalty is a sissy.


There I said it. Everyone was thinking it.

When you grow up, maybe you will learn to think like an adult. My bet says you won't though. Why did I waste this one minute on you? Definitely not worth it.

Care to share these facts Nate?

Crisco
06-03-2009, 05:14 PM
When you grow up, maybe you will learn to think like an adult. My bet says you won't though. Why did I waste this one minute on you? Definitely not worth it.

Care to share these facts Nate?

Pull your panties out of a wad.

Your such a snooty bastard. It amazes me every time I read one of posts just how much of an uppity douche you can really be.

Grow a sense of humor right after you grow a pair and man up.

and on a more serious note: I have ZERO issue with the execution of people found guilty of first degree murder. If you are a killer and have gone out of your way to end someones life there is ZERO reason why you should beallowed to continue to live when you could easily kill again.

In the real world people are EVIL. I grew up in a ghetto, I had gangster friends and the only thing gangsters understand is punishment. If you insult them they kicked your ass. If you killed one of them they would kill you. This is the real world far away from your precious little Forest you live in.

I've seen some messed up **** man and until YOU actually grow up and get a ****ing clue about what the world is you shouldn't talk. Some people shouldn't be alive anymore. FACT.

Tyburn
06-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Why did I waste this one minute on you? Definitely not worth it.


You are free to leave at any time Buzzard :ninja:

Buzzard
06-03-2009, 08:20 PM
Pull your panties out of a wad.

Your such a snooty bastard. It amazes me every time I read one of posts just how much of an uppity douche you can really be.

Grow a sense of humor right after you grow a pair and man up.

and on a more serious note: I have ZERO issue with the execution of people found guilty of first degree murder. If you are a killer and have gone out of your way to end someones life there is ZERO reason why you should beallowed to continue to live when you could easily kill again.

In the real world people are EVIL. I grew up in a ghetto, I had gangster friends and the only thing gangsters understand is punishment. If you insult them they kicked your ass. If you killed one of them they would kill you. This is the real world far away from your precious little Forest you live in.

I've seen some messed up **** man and until YOU actually grow up and get a ****ing clue about what the world is you shouldn't talk. Some people shouldn't be alive anymore. FACT.


And youíre a low-life hypocritical ghetto punk posing as a member of society. I understand why you like to call names and have the attitude that you do. Itís because your brain is too small and undeveloped to carry on a conversation without resorting to pre-pubescent name calling. Apologies to the members for stooping down to Criscoís level.

I have so much more life experience than you and I have seen many things too. Before you were even born I had a bigger set than you and am more of a man than your punk self is. I do believe that you are the one that needs to man up, and leave your punk attitude behind.


You are free to leave at any time Buzzard

You know what you're free to do too Tyburn.

Miss Foxy
06-03-2009, 08:36 PM
And you’re a low-life hypocritical ghetto punk posing as a member of society. I understand why you like to call names and have the attitude that you do. It’s because your brain is too small and undeveloped to carry on a conversation without resorting to pre-pubescent name calling. Apologies to the members for stooping down to Crisco’s level.

I have so much more life experience than you and I have seen many things too. Before you were even born I had a bigger set than you and am more of a man than your punk self is. I do believe that you are the one that needs to man up, and leave your punk attitude behind.




You know what you're free to do too Tyburn.
If you get your head outta your *ss once in a while you would know that Cris is a good guy. If we had to vote someone off this (forum) island it would no doubt in my mind be YOU! :angry:

Crisco
06-03-2009, 08:37 PM
And you’re a low-life hypocritical ghetto punk posing as a member of society. I understand why you like to call names and have the attitude that you do. It’s because your brain is too small and undeveloped to carry on a conversation without resorting to pre-pubescent name calling. Apologies to the members for stooping down to Crisco’s level.

I have so much more life experience than you and I have seen many things too. Before you were even born I had a bigger set than you and am more of a man than your punk self is. I do believe that you are the one that needs to man up, and leave your punk attitude behind.




You know what you're free to do too Tyburn.

Looks like I hit a nerve.

For the record so you remember your the one with no sense of humor and couldn't take a little jab which was undoubtbly in jest.

I'm far from a ghetto punk and I hang in a normal conversation with you just fine. When two people fundamentalily disagree you are bound to find conflict. Your a bleeding heart who wants to reward convicted serial killers with a long coddled life behind tax payers bars.

Please enlighten me as to where exactly your life experience comes from? I've just realized I know very little if anything about you. You don't even have where you are from in your members details. It may help to explain so I can further understand your lack humor on any and all subjects especially yourself.

What exactly did I say that was hypocritical?

I merely implied that due to your stance on capital punishment I thought you quite possibly could have been a sissy.

You then proceeded with your uptight douchbaggery.

It's not worth mixing words over. You think I'm an idiot and I think your a sissified idiot.

Only one way to solve this....


CAGE FIGHT!

Crisco
06-03-2009, 08:41 PM
If you get your head outta your *ss once in a while you would know that Cris is a good guy. If we had to vote someone off this (forum) island it would no doubt in my mind be YOU! :angry:


I don't know where his head is melis but it's definately not up his butt... He is way to much of a tight ass for that :laugh: :tongue0011:

County Mike
06-03-2009, 09:27 PM
I kept skipping this thread because I thought it was more history lesson from Dave.

I'm FOR the death penalty. No need to spend money keeping killers alive.

As Nate said, for first degree murder. Not for accidental things like vehicular manslaughter, self defense, etc. DEFINITELY for it with anyone who has killed more than once.

Crisco
06-03-2009, 09:28 PM
I kept skipping this thread because I thought it was more history lesson from Dave.

I'm FOR the death penalty. No need to spend money keeping killers alive.

As Nate said, for first degree murder. Not for accidental things like vehicular manslaughter, self defense, etc. DEFINITELY for it with anyone who has killed more than once.

lol

Tyburn
06-03-2009, 09:37 PM
You know what you're free to do too Tyburn.

Behave Buzzard :angry:

Tyburn
06-03-2009, 09:38 PM
I kept skipping this thread because I thought it was more history lesson from Dave.

:unsure-1:

Buzzard
06-04-2009, 02:01 AM
Looks like I hit a nerve.

For the record so you remember your the one with no sense of humor and couldn't take a little jab which was undoubtbly in jest.

I'm far from a ghetto punk and I hang in a normal conversation with you just fine. When two people fundamentalily disagree you are bound to find conflict. Your a bleeding heart who wants to reward convicted serial killers with a long coddled life behind tax payers bars.

Please enlighten me as to where exactly your life experience comes from? I've just realized I know very little if anything about you. You don't even have where you are from in your members details. It may help to explain so I can further understand your lack humor on any and all subjects especially yourself.

What exactly did I say that was hypocritical?

I merely implied that due to your stance on capital punishment I thought you quite possibly could have been a sissy.

You then proceeded with your uptight douchbaggery.

It's not worth mixing words over. You think I'm an idiot and I think your a sissified idiot.

Only one way to solve this....


CAGE FIGHT!


No Crisco, I have quite the sense of humor. Probably a much better one than you. Undoubtedly in jest?, Yeah right, back peddle when I call you out, and then cement your lies in place with your last statement. Class 1 hypocrite with your actions. You talk the talk but sure donít walk the walk. Thatís how you are a hypocrite.

You donít hang with me just fine in conversation or else you wouldnít need to resort to juvenile name calling . Thatís how a loser in life acts. You act like an internet ghetto punk, so that is how I see you. I donít like state sponsored killing, and Iím fine with it. If you again need to use childish labels because you canít make a point without doing so, you arenít worth my time. How about if I started using your tactics and started calling you a wuss because you believe in what I and others I know consider a fairy tale? Or how about I imply that you are a sissy because you are against abortion and canít stomach the thought of a bunch of cells being scraped out of a uterus.. That would be a low blow wouldnít it, and would serve no purpose other than to ignite your anger while not taking the conversation forward. You want me to not think of you as a ghetto punk, then quit acting like one.

If I wished for you to know my background and current location, I would have shared it with you. I choose to keep my personal life personal and off of the internet.

Again, you actions show you to be a 3rd rate punk. Wow, you are such a cool internet warrior.:laugh:

If you get your head outta your *ss once in a while you would know that Cris is a good guy. If we had to vote someone off this (forum) island it would no doubt in my mind be YOU! :angry:


I'd vote to feed you to the sharks. You can stick you head back in yours while you're at it. It's so cute how you stick your face in business that doesn't pertain to you and defend the one who starts with the juvenile crap. Classic. I think Crisco is a big enough boy and should be able to handle his conversations on his own without his big sister coming in to rescue him.

Behave Buzzard :angry:

The last thing I want right now is to deal with your lame attempt at trying to show power. Give it up and speak when spoken to. When I want to hear your opinion, I'll tell you it.:tongue0011:

J.B.
06-04-2009, 06:10 AM
No Crisco, I have quite the sense of humor. Probably a much better one than you. Undoubtedly in jest?, Yeah right, back peddle when I call you out, and then cement your lies in place with your last statement. Class 1 hypocrite with your actions. You talk the talk but sure don’t walk the walk. That’s how you are a hypocrite.

You don’t hang with me just fine in conversation or else you wouldn’t need to resort to juvenile name calling . That’s how a loser in life acts. You act like an internet ghetto punk, so that is how I see you. I don’t like state sponsored killing, and I’m fine with it. If you again need to use childish labels because you can’t make a point without doing so, you aren’t worth my time. How about if I started using your tactics and started calling you a wuss because you believe in what I and others I know consider a fairy tale? Or how about I imply that you are a sissy because you are against abortion and can’t stomach the thought of a bunch of cells being scraped out of a uterus.. That would be a low blow wouldn’t it, and would serve no purpose other than to ignite your anger while not taking the conversation forward. You want me to not think of you as a ghetto punk, then quit acting like one.

If I wished for you to know my background and current location, I would have shared it with you. I choose to keep my personal life personal and off of the internet.

Again, you actions show you to be a 3rd rate punk. Wow, you are such a cool internet warrior.:laugh:




I'd vote to feed you to the sharks. You can stick you head back in yours while you're at it. It's so cute how you stick your face in business that doesn't pertain to you and defend the one who starts with the juvenile crap. Classic. I think Crisco is a big enough boy and should be able to handle his conversations on his own without his big sister coming in to rescue him.



The last thing I want right now is to deal with your lame attempt at trying to show power. Give it up and speak when spoken to. When I want to hear your opinion, I'll tell you it.:tongue0011:

You pretty much destroyed any idea that you are the "bigger" person in any of this by all the crap you talk in that post.

Crisco has been around here for quite some time, and it's well known that he tends to be that way when posting about stuff that irritates him. Hell, way back when I first started posting here, me and Crisco disagreed on some stuff and he irritated me a bit, but once I got to know him better I completely understand it. It's not like he's trying to personally degrade you, he don't even know you, he's just commenting on your posts and sometimes discussions get heated. I have a LOT of GOOD friends with that type of personality and it don't make them "losers" by any stretch of the imagination.

You, on the other hand act like a dark horseman around here for the most part and only really post when you feel you can get into a debate, or as you say "question our views". You want to keep your personal life personal? Thats fine, Praxis, but by now you should realize that a lot of people around here are actually friends, and DO have personal relationships. So, when you come around and act like the token liberal in a place full of conservatives, you are gonna get called out, and when you attack a long time forum member people are gonna step up and say something.

I feel I "hang just fine" with you in any debate, and I am willing to bet that I could out debate you on just about any topic (except maybe how to suck at internet), with no name calling, to a point were you would stop posting. My work speaks for itself. :wink:

Tyburn
06-04-2009, 12:45 PM
The last thing I want right now is to deal with your lame attempt at trying to show power. Give it up and speak when spoken to. When I want to hear your opinion, I'll tell you it.:tongue0011:
This thread is going nowhere, so its time to put it out of its misery :ninja:

Your personal life is not the only thing you should keep off this Forum, your bad manners, disrespect to Moderators, and unchristian behaviour are also not required. :angry: