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Chris F
04-15-2009, 03:38 AM
Recession fueling right-wing extremism, U.S. says
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MIAMI (Reuters) Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials.

The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in "recruitment and radicalization activity" by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name.

DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been "largely rhetorical."

But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession "could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists."

"To the extent that these factors persist, right-wing extremism is likely to grow in strength," DHS said.

The report warned that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat skills could be recruitment targets, especially those having trouble finding jobs or fitting back into civilian society.

The department "is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities," the report said.

DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban said on Tuesday the report was one of an ongoing series of threat assessments aimed at "a greater understanding of violent radicalization in the U.S."

A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

"These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual," Kuban said.

The Department of Homeland Security was formed in response to the September 11 attacks of 2001 and has focused largely on threats from Islamist extremists.

The report said domestic right-wing terrorist groups grew during the economic recession of the early 1990s but subsided as the economy improved.

Government scrutiny disrupted violent plots following the April 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh which killed 168 people.

LONE WOLVES

"Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years," the report said.

The Internet has made it easier to locate specific targets, communicate with like-minded people and find information on bombs and weapons, it said.

Extremist groups are preying on fears that President Barack Obama, the first African American U.S. president, would restrict gun ownership, boost immigration and expand social programs for minorities, the report said.

It said such groups were also exploiting anti-Semitic sentiment with accusations that "a cabal of Jewish financial elites" had conspired to collapse the economy.

"This trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen," the report said.

(Additional reporting by Randall Mikkelsen in Washington, editing by Jim Loney and Alan Elsner)

NateR
04-15-2009, 03:52 AM
This is just disgusting fear-mongering on the part of the Obama administration.

The simple fact that they are trying to vilify American veterans and characterize them as a danger to the government is just despicable.:angry:

This does remind me of the fear-mongering days of the 90s when movies like Arlington Road attempted to portray conservative Christian families as terrorists.

One commentator described these political trends as a pendulum which swings from one side to the other. This is probably the most extreme level of influence that liberals have had on the government itself and will most likely just result in an even greater swing back to conservatism in a few years.

Llamafighter
04-15-2009, 01:05 PM
This is just disgusting fear-mongering on the part of the Obama administration.

The simple fact that they are trying to vilify American veterans and characterize them as a danger to the government is just despicable.:angry:

This does remind me of the fear-mongering days of the 90s when movies like Arlington Road attempted to portray conservative Christian families as terrorists.

One commentator described these political trends as a pendulum which swings from one side to the other. This is probably the most extreme level of influence that liberals have had on the government itself and will most likely just result in an even greater swing back to conservatism in a few years.

I have to believe that if there are extreme liberal whackos there are going to be person's occupying the opposite end of the spectrum. I think all religions and political groups have extremists.
I find myself becoming more and more conservative in my old age. perhaps it's the influence of this forum;)

rockdawg21
04-15-2009, 01:23 PM
I have to believe that if there are extreme liberal whackos there are going to be person's occupying the opposite end of the spectrum. I think all religions and political groups have extremists.
I find myself becoming more and more conservative in my old age. perhaps it's the influence of this forum;)
Or it could be that you're not just thinking of yourself and actually thinking of the future of your family. Liberals tend to live in the now and want everything for themselves without thinking of the consequences of the future generations. I.E. Barack Obama investing our childrens' futures into failing businesses.

Llamafighter
04-15-2009, 01:26 PM
Or it could be that you're not just thinking of yourself and actually thinking of the future of your family. Liberals tend to live in the now and want everything for themselves without thinking of the consequences of the future generations. I.E. Barack Obama investing our childrens' futures into failing businesses.

no that's not it...:ashamed:

rearnakedchoke
04-15-2009, 01:54 PM
I can see this already happening .. oh well, you knew it was a matter of time before people started blaming Obama's poor plans on his race ... it is really sad that it is all he can come up with .....

Crisco
04-15-2009, 02:43 PM
The forum definately makes you more conservative. I've come a LONG way haha.

I use to be extremely liberal.

Llamafighter
04-15-2009, 04:17 PM
The forum definately makes you more conservative. I've come a LONG way haha.

I use to be extremely liberal.

for every hour I spend on here I have to watch an episode of The Daily Show:laugh:

rockdawg21
04-15-2009, 04:17 PM
I can see this already happening .. oh well, you knew it was a matter of time before people started blaming Obama's poor plans on his race ... it is really sad that it is all he can come up with .....
Agreed, the fact that he's half white shouldn't give people a reason to hate him. :laugh:

NateR
04-15-2009, 04:25 PM
I can see this already happening .. oh well, you knew it was a matter of time before people started blaming Obama's poor plans on his race ... it is really sad that it is all he can come up with .....

I think claiming this is all about Obama's race is weak and shows that Obama's supporters are finding less and less ways to defend the man's actions.

His approval ratings are plummeting, Americans are feeling more and more disgruntled. In fact, he's managed to alienate more Americans in his first 100 days than George W. Bush did over the course of 8 years. Disregarding the fact that most of Bush's unpopularity was just a fabrication of the liberal media.

rockdawg21
04-15-2009, 04:26 PM
I think claiming this is all about Obama's race is weak and shows that Obama's supporters are finding less and less ways to defend the man's actions.

His approval ratings are plummeting, Americans are feeling more and more disgruntled. In fact, he's managed to alienate more Americans in his first 100 days than George W. Bush did over the course of 8 years. Disregarding the fact that most of Bush's unpopularity was just a fabrication of the liberal media.
Pretty significant isn't it?

Tyburn
04-15-2009, 08:14 PM
I wouldnt say that Obama has much to do with this. First of all America itself stands Right of Centre, and its always a fine line in holding strong beliefs, that you might accidently take them to far.

Now your in hard times, and people need belief more then ever to pull them through. Most people will not be nationalistic on their own...but there are a few who are extremely radical, who will see this as their chance to use the current climate as an excuse.

The British Nationalist Party is up to its old tricks again. Half the problem with these Nationalistic groups is they CAUSE the division in the first place. Bradford is usually peacful until the BNP say something contriversail deliberatley to cause a row with those seen as Islamic...and suddenly, as soon as Islam replies...the BNP claims that this is proof of its initial claims.

I even know that there is a group of Mixed Martial Artists based on a White Supremacy Brotherhood...I forget what the name of the gym is, and I'm in two minds as to whether its just a peaceful protest, or whether those people would fund, campaign, or support the guys who actually act on their beliefs in this manner.

It was on a documentary I watched a while back, I meant to mention it at the time, but I've forgotten all about it. Gym members take up to two years to actually be inducted into the brotherhood...and then out they go to plant gyms in different areas with the idea of building up the same. Simply put, they use Mixed Martial Arts for properganda purposes...the gym is designed to lure in the unsuspected athlete...and thats when the conditioning begins :ninja:

Miss Foxy
04-15-2009, 08:40 PM
I wouldnt say that Obama has much to do with this. First of all America itself stands Right of Centre, and its always a fine line in holding strong beliefs, that you might accidently take them to far.

Now your in hard times, and people need belief more then ever to pull them through. Most people will not be nationalistic on their own...but there are a few who are extremely radical, who will see this as their chance to use the current climate as an excuse.

The British Nationalist Party is up to its old tricks again. Half the problem with these Nationalistic groups is they CAUSE the division in the first place. Bradford is usually peacful until the BNP say something contriversail deliberatley to cause a row with those seen as Islamic...and suddenly, as soon as Islam replies...the BNP claims that this is proof of its initial claims.

I even know that there is a group of Mixed Martial Artists based on a White Supremacy Brotherhood...I forget what the name of the gym is, and I'm in two minds as to whether its just a peaceful protest, or whether those people would fund, campaign, or support the guys who actually act on their beliefs in this manner.

It was on a documentary I watched a while back, I meant to mention it at the time, but I've forgotten all about it. Gym members take up to two years to actually be inducted into the brotherhood...and then out they go to plant gyms in different areas with the idea of building up the same. Simply put, they use Mixed Martial Arts for properganda purposes...the gym is designed to lure in the unsuspected athlete...and thats when the conditioning begins :ninja:
LMAO Dave your so random!! :tongue0011:

Tyburn
04-15-2009, 08:42 PM
LMAO Dave your so random!! :tongue0011:
thats a delicate way of putting it :laugh:

Max
04-15-2009, 09:20 PM
I have to believe that if there are extreme liberal whackos there are going to be person's occupying the opposite end of the spectrum. I think all religions and political groups have extremists.
I agree. I think that anytime there is a shift in power you have to watch out for the other sides extremists.

NateR
04-16-2009, 12:34 AM
I agree. I think that anytime there is a shift in power you have to watch out for the other sides extremists.

Unfortunately, the left-wing extremists are in the government right now and I don't think that Obama is the worst of them by a long shot. Nancy Pelosi is most definitely the most liberal, left-wing nut job to ever hold political office in this country.

It just sickens me that the cowards who spat on our veterans returning from Vietnam are spitting on veterans again by claiming that they are a threat to the United States government. :angry:

Tyburn
04-16-2009, 11:34 AM
Unfortunately, the left-wing extremists are in the government right now and I don't think that Obama is the worst of them by a long shot. Nancy Pelosi is most definitely the most liberal, left-wing nut job to ever hold political office in this country.

It just sickens me that the cowards who spat on our veterans returning from Vietnam are spitting on veterans again by claiming that they are a threat to the United States government. :angry:
:huh: I thought that Barack was the most Liberal of the Democrats.

Is this Nancy woman...the same woman who is speaker of the House :ninja:

VCURamFan
04-16-2009, 11:38 AM
:huh: I thought that Barack was the most Liberal of the Democrats.

Is this Nancy woman...the same woman who is speaker of the House :ninja:Yes, that's who Nancy is.

Tyburn
04-16-2009, 11:46 AM
Yes, that's who Nancy is.
:ninja: well...the Speaker in the Commons isnt allowed to be connected to either party I dont think.

Does she get to choose who can speak in Congress and when, like in a debate and stuff? because thats what Our Speaker does. If thats so...Nancy dont need to give much air time to Republicans...and thats a bit unfair for Governmental debates isnt it :mellow:

Max
04-16-2009, 03:21 PM
:ninja: well...the Speaker in the Commons isnt allowed to be connected to either party I dont think.

Does she get to choose who can speak in Congress and when, like in a debate and stuff? because thats what Our Speaker does. If thats so...Nancy dont need to give much air time to Republicans...and thats a bit unfair for Governmental debates isnt it :mellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representati ves

Tyburn
04-16-2009, 04:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representati ves
thanks for paraphrasing :mellow:

Max
04-16-2009, 05:42 PM
thanks for paraphrasing :mellow:
Dave there has been multiple times when you have posted responses that longer than that whole article when you could have just said "I dont like BJ Penn". You can suck it up and read it if you really wanna know the info.

Tyburn
04-16-2009, 05:52 PM
Dave there has been multiple times when you have posted responses that longer than that whole article when you could have just said "I dont like BJ Penn". You can suck it up and read it if you really wanna know the info.
not that Wikipedia should be taken as complete fact

Why dont you post the link to her own website...if she has one :laugh:

Max
04-16-2009, 06:31 PM
not that Wikipedia should be taken as complete fact

Why dont you post the link to her own website...if she has one :laugh:
Ask and it shall be done

http://speaker.house.gov/

Tyburn
04-16-2009, 06:51 PM
Ask and it shall be done

http://speaker.house.gov/
:laugh:

Moose
04-18-2009, 06:20 PM
Or it could be that you're not just thinking of yourself and actually thinking of the future of your family. Liberals tend to live in the now and want everything for themselves without thinking of the consequences of the future generations. I.E. Barack Obama investing our childrens' futures into failing businesses.

You could easily juxtapose the right's position on the environment. Both Obama's and Bush's administrations you could very easily say mortgaged our futures.

..depends on which b.s. you buy into.

Edit: Changed mortgage to mortgaged