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rearnakedchoke
04-01-2009, 06:49 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/01/moats.ap/index.html

So the cop resigned because he was doing his job ... There was a story about this on one of those current event shows and a lady who was doing 30mPh over was pulled over because her father was dying ... It is on video that she tells the cop, my father is dying, then gets back in her car and drives away .. she is later arrested and blames to police that she wasn't able to spend her father's last minutes with him ...

I am sorry, but I would fire the cop(s) had they not stopped these people .. they are doing their job .. I mean, are they supposed to believe everyone who says they are racing to the hospital to see a dying family member???

Or what about the people who say "Officer, I don't know how the drugs got in my car, they sure aren't mine" ... they should also be let off too ....

ok, had to rant ... sorry ......

VCURamFan
04-01-2009, 07:02 PM
Yeah this is bull. Unfortunately for him, he pulled over a high-profile person & it got out.

That being said, once the nurse came out of the hospital & said "No seriously, his mom-in-law is dying," I'd say that you let the man go inside.

County Mike
04-01-2009, 07:03 PM
Unless you're the doctor that has to perform emergency surgery to save their life, a dying family member is NOT a license to speed. Most likely, the speeding will get you there a minute or two sooner. Not likely to make enough difference to justify risking other lives with the speeding.

Bonnie
04-01-2009, 08:02 PM
Hey, where's the compassion. He was trying to get his wife there; it was her mother who was dying.

Apparently, he pulled over some other ball player's wife before this incident and detained her for several hours.

I know they shouldn't be speeding and going thru red lights, but I probably would be doing the same thing to get to my dying mother or loved one.

Something else is going on here with this police officer like he was power tripp'n. I think they probably gave him the option of either quitting or getting fired. So I'm thinking he had done other things and this was just the coup de gras that put the final nail in his police career.

They played the audio and video on tv and you could hear what he was saying. I think he was being an ass.

Moose
04-01-2009, 09:15 PM
Did you actually hear the audio? The guy was asking for a ticket. The cop was being a doooosh.

NateR
04-01-2009, 09:23 PM
When the nurses and hospital security actually came out and verified the man's story, then the police officer should have backed off.

The guy had no sense of compassion or common sense and we don't need police officers like that.

What he SHOULD have done was to let the people into the hospital and taken the man's driver's license. He could have waited for them to leave the hospital and then hand them the ticket, or just have the guy go to the police station to pick up his license and his ticket.

Running a stop sign is not even a jailable offense and does not justify forcing a man to miss the last few moments of a family member's life for some bureaucratic bullcrap.

What I see here is just some young punk on a power trip who has no business being a police officer.

Jonlion
04-01-2009, 09:39 PM
Nothing worse than a Jobsworth.

I expect Policeman to police with common sense. There are times to show compassion, there are times to come down hard.

They should weigh up the situation, and you can speed but not be driving recklessly, there is a difference for me.

Moose
04-01-2009, 10:18 PM
When the nurses and hospital security actually came out and verified the man's story, then the police officer should have backed off.

The guy had no sense of compassion or common sense and we don't need police officers like that.

What he SHOULD have done was to let the people into the hospital and taken the man's driver's license. He could have waited for them to leave the hospital and then hand them the ticket, or just have the guy go to the police station to pick up his license and his ticket.

Running a stop sign is not even a jailable offense and does not justify forcing a man to miss the last few moments of a family member's life for some bureaucratic bullcrap.

What I see here is just some young punk on a power trip who has no business being a police officer.

Agreeing with you makes me feel funny.

rockdawg21
04-01-2009, 10:41 PM
What Nate said.

matthughesfan21
04-01-2009, 11:04 PM
Nate is exactly right, this guy is just power hungry, when the wife(hysterical) got out and ran into the hospital, he drew his weapon on her...after lecturing over running a red light, the woman had already passed...this isn't the first time this has happened with this cop, NFL linebacker Zach Thomas reportedly said the cop pulled over his pregnant wife at one point for I believe it was speeding, and asked her to get out of the car and had her searched and the car searched(just for speeding!!!)...this is another case of a cop on a powertrip who thinks he is more important than he really is, in both these cases were famous people driving nice vehicles, and he most likely thought he was gonna make a name for himself for busting them...We don't need people like him on police forces, HE is the reason cops have a bad reputation...It's a shame GOOD cops are lumped into the same categories as a**holes like this

matthughesfan21
04-01-2009, 11:06 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/01/moats.ap/index.html

So the cop resigned because he was doing his job ... There was a story about this on one of those current event shows and a lady who was doing 30mPh over was pulled over because her father was dying ... It is on video that she tells the cop, my father is dying, then gets back in her car and drives away .. she is later arrested and blames to police that she wasn't able to spend her father's last minutes with him ...

I am sorry, but I would fire the cop(s) had they not stopped these people .. they are doing their job .. I mean, are they supposed to believe everyone who says they are racing to the hospital to see a dying family member???

Or what about the people who say "Officer, I don't know how the drugs got in my car, they sure aren't mine" ... they should also be let off too ....

ok, had to rant ... sorry ......well considering he pulled into the hospital and his wife ran inside crying hysterically, I don't think it would take Einstein to put 2 and 2 together

Chuck
04-02-2009, 12:48 AM
well considering he pulled into the hospital and his wife ran inside crying hysterically, I don't think it would take Einstein to put 2 and 2 together

Not to mention a nurse running out to verify the story to the police...

Bonnie
04-02-2009, 03:49 AM
When the nurses and hospital security actually came out and verified the man's story, then the police officer should have backed off.

The guy had no sense of compassion or common sense and we don't need police officers like that.

What he SHOULD have done was to let the people into the hospital and taken the man's driver's license. He could have waited for them to leave the hospital and then hand them the ticket, or just have the guy go to the police station to pick up his license and his ticket.

Running a stop sign is not even a jailable offense and does not justify forcing a man to miss the last few moments of a family member's life for some bureaucratic bullcrap.

What I see here is just some young punk on a power trip who has no business being a police officer.

Moose if you were talking to me, I was saying the "cop" was being an ass.

I think he was one of those in uniform, unfortunately, that use their badge to show others that he's the man. He's not wearing it to "protect and serve"; he's wearing it to show you who's boss. Those type of cops are dangerous for the very fact they carry a badge and gun.

Moose
04-02-2009, 12:03 PM
Moose if you were talking to me, I was saying the "cop" was being an ass.

I think he was one of those in uniform, unfortunately, that use their badge to show others that he's the man. He's not wearing it to "protect and serve"; he's wearing it to show you who's boss. Those type of cops are dangerous for the very fact they carry a badge and gun.

Did you mean NateR?

Bonnie
04-02-2009, 01:01 PM
Did you mean NateR?

No, Nate pretty much said what I was thinking and what I said except better. :wink:

I wasn't sure who you're ? was directed at. I thought maybe it was me and maybe I wasn't clear in who I was saying was "the ass". Just clarifying. :)

Moose
04-02-2009, 01:54 PM
I posed it to everyone. I don't know if anyone could actually hear the audio and side with the cop.

Llamafighter
04-02-2009, 01:58 PM
and THIS is
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/AbsolutelyFabulous_WhiteBox.jpg

Miss Foxy
04-02-2009, 02:54 PM
Agreeing with you makes me feel funny.

I bet it makes you feel funny!! I can just imagine!! But on a serious note he has a lot of logic most of the time. I think everyone contributes some good feedback now and then. :)

Moose
04-02-2009, 02:57 PM
I bet it makes you feel funny!! I can just imagine!! But on a serious note he has a lot of logic most of the time. I think everyone contributes some good feedback now and then. :)

/backhanded compliment

County Mike
04-02-2009, 04:07 PM
I still side with the cops. Just because you have a loved one in the hospital and near death, doesn't give you the right to drive recklessly and endanger other people's lives.

If you're transporting a critical person to the hospital, I accept that. Going to get a final visit in does not justify it.

Ticket deserved.

NateR
04-02-2009, 04:28 PM
I still side with the cops. Just because you have a loved one in the hospital and near death, doesn't give you the right to drive recklessly and endanger other people's lives.

If you're transporting a critical person to the hospital, I accept that. Going to get a final visit in does not justify it.

Ticket deserved.

I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.

County Mike
04-02-2009, 04:36 PM
I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.

That's true. You don't badmouth the dying family members. I thought the uproar was because the cop pulled them over and didn't just let them go when their reason was explained.

rearnakedchoke
04-02-2009, 04:36 PM
I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.

so had the driver hit and killed someone on the way to the hospital, he should be let in to see his MIL before taken to jail? come on, the cops did his job ... and people are making a big deal of him pointing a gun, yet they are saying she was hysterical ... if i am a cop and she came around the car like that, you gotta protect yourself first ...

I have had to go visit dying people in the hospital, including my father in law, and i was able to obey the laws, it is not that hard ...

NateR
04-02-2009, 04:50 PM
so had the driver hit and killed someone on the way to the hospital, he should be let in to see his MIL before taken to jail? come on, the cops did his job ... and people are making a big deal of him pointing a gun, yet they are saying she was hysterical ... if i am a cop and she came around the car like that, you gotta protect yourself first ...

I have had to go visit dying people in the hospital, including my father in law, and i was able to obey the laws, it is not that hard ...

No, you don't tell people that their family doesn't matter. That's just wrong. The law needs to be enforced with some measure of compassion and common sense. This cop had neither and I don't want someone like that serving on any police force.

If they had committed a hit and run, then I could understand the cop's actions. Again, running a stop sign and speeding are not jailable offenses, the cop had no legal grounds to threaten to arrest this man for running a stop sign. A little bit of perspective is required here.

I don't care that he stopped them or tried to pull them over, that's his job. I don't even care that he pulled his gun, that's to be expected when people jump out of the car after being pulled over. What bothers me is that, even when the nurses and hospital security verified the man's story, the cop still detained him to write this stupid ticket.

99% of the time, I would side with the cop in a situation like this. However, the circumstances here are clearly different than someone just lying to get out of a ticket.

Llamafighter
04-02-2009, 05:28 PM
This is how you stop a crook!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zRRCxdaqF4&feature=related

Bonnie
04-02-2009, 06:27 PM
That's true. You don't badmouth the dying family members. I thought the uproar was because the cop pulled them over and didn't just let them go when their reason was explained.

I understood if the cop felt he still had to issue the ticket. Also, he didn't know what was going on when all of them exited the vehicle(s) so he drew his weapon. But, once the hospital personnel verified his story, the cop should have escorted him in to the hospital and finished writing the ticket at that point.

Like I said, I don't think it was this one incident that lost him his job. :wink:

Moose
04-02-2009, 09:21 PM
I still side with the cops. Just because you have a loved one in the hospital and near death, doesn't give you the right to drive recklessly and endanger other people's lives.

If you're transporting a critical person to the hospital, I accept that. Going to get a final visit in does not justify it.

Ticket deserved.

He stopped, waited at the red light and then rolled thru. Doesn't sound like he endangered anyone.

Ticket deserved, looking like an ass and resigning, also deserved.

It's not about a ticket, the guy asked for one. It was the unnecessary delay.

Miss Foxy
04-02-2009, 10:21 PM
Good rule of thumb...
Treat people how you would like to be treated. You never know what someone is going through. Try to be patient, kind, and gentle when you can. Treat others as you would your own family. Thats all I have to say...:wink:
Unless your bashing Matt then you gotta deal with me and you will feel the wrath of Miss Villaseņor....

Moose
04-02-2009, 11:00 PM
Good rule of thumb...

Unless your bashing Matt then you gotta deal with me and you will feel the wrath of Miss Villaseņor....

:scared0011: :cry: